7 ms·

Are you able to share any data to support that?

ipaddr 3y ago
People with lower education level have a smaller pool of jobs available. Those overlap with people traveling for work from places with a lower economic standard. A lack of migrant workers means higher wages and more opportunity. It's why few on here get projects from upwork. A select few can specialize and demand US market rates while most compete with individuals happy to make $5 US an hour. Growing the economy doesn't mean it is going to trickle to the poorest. Often a country with a high growth rate has a large divide between rich and poor. Often a slower growth country funnels that wealth to the lowest in society.
- ortusdux 3y ago
  So, no?
  - ipaddr 3y ago
    I'm accepting funding for this new study you are requesting.
    - dspillett 3y ago
      Either there is good information out there to back up your position already, in which case just link to it and we'll check it out, or you are very confident in your position without information to back it up, in which case we don't have any compulsion to believe you to be correct. Statements that can be made without good evidence can be rightly dismissed just as easily.
      - ipaddr 3y ago
        There is no counter data or study provided. What side are you choosing to believe?
        dspillett 3y ago
        You have given us nothing to counter? At least nothing but vague hand-wavey rhetoric. Costing the UK overall $178bn is going to harm us all in the long run, so the initial article is your starter for ten. If you want us to give a reasoned counter to your position, you first need to properly describe your position. Spouting “well you haven't cited sources either” when we ask you to cite sources is playground stuff, in a similar vein: show us yours and we'll show you ours. If you make claims and refuse to substantiate them, then complain that a counter isn't sufficiently substantiated, it isn't us that looks like they don't know how to properly discus things.
Supermancho 3y ago
There are conflicting reports of increases ([1]or decreases, like this one) during the pandemic. Most show a net growth since 2019. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/933075/wage-growth-in-the-uk/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/933075/wage-growth-in-th...
- acdha 3y ago
  From that page: > While wages are currently growing at a relatively fast pace, high inflation is currently cancelling this growth out, leading to the negative growth in real terms throughout 2022 and early 2023. Although it is likely that UK inflation peaked in October 2022, at 11.1 percent it has yet to fall below double figures as of March 2023. Forecasts from the Spring 2023 budget predict that the annual UK inflation will average out at 6.1 percent in 2023, before falling to 0.9 percent in 2024. Falling wages is just one of the aspects of the current Cost of Living Crisis, which has led to the steepest fall in living standards in a generation

People with lower education level have a smaller pool of jobs available. Those overlap with people traveling for work from places with a lower economic standard. A lack of migrant workers means higher wages and more opportunity. It's why few on here get projects from upwork. A select few can specialize and demand US market rates while most compete with individuals happy to make $5 US an hour. Growing the economy doesn't mean it is going to trickle to the poorest. Often a country with a high growth rate has a large divide between rich and poor. Often a slower growth country funnels that wealth to the lowest in society.

ortusdux 3y ago
So, no?
- ipaddr 3y ago
  I'm accepting funding for this new study you are requesting.
  - dspillett 3y ago
    Either there is good information out there to back up your position already, in which case just link to it and we'll check it out, or you are very confident in your position without information to back it up, in which case we don't have any compulsion to believe you to be correct. Statements that can be made without good evidence can be rightly dismissed just as easily.
    - ipaddr 3y ago
      There is no counter data or study provided. What side are you choosing to believe?
      - dspillett 3y ago
        You have given us nothing to counter? At least nothing but vague hand-wavey rhetoric. Costing the UK overall $178bn is going to harm us all in the long run, so the initial article is your starter for ten. If you want us to give a reasoned counter to your position, you first need to properly describe your position. Spouting “well you haven't cited sources either” when we ask you to cite sources is playground stuff, in a similar vein: show us yours and we'll show you ours. If you make claims and refuse to substantiate them, then complain that a counter isn't sufficiently substantiated, it isn't us that looks like they don't know how to properly discus things.

Supermancho 3y ago

There are conflicting reports of increases ([1]or decreases, like this one) during the pandemic. Most show a net growth since 2019. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/933075/wage-growth-in-the-uk/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/933075/wage-growth-in-th...

acdha 3y ago
From that page: > While wages are currently growing at a relatively fast pace, high inflation is currently cancelling this growth out, leading to the negative growth in real terms throughout 2022 and early 2023. Although it is likely that UK inflation peaked in October 2022, at 11.1 percent it has yet to fall below double figures as of March 2023. Forecasts from the Spring 2023 budget predict that the annual UK inflation will average out at 6.1 percent in 2023, before falling to 0.9 percent in 2024. Falling wages is just one of the aspects of the current Cost of Living Crisis, which has led to the steepest fall in living standards in a generation