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They are technically both correct, but in different situations. If you drink a glass of orange juice, you get Feinman's case and no problems. If you drink a 7
by dschleef 14y ago
They are technically both correct, but in different situations. If you drink a glass of orange juice, you get Feinman's case and no problems. If you drink a 72 oz soda, you get Lustig's case. Lustig goes into details about the differences in other videos, and makes the point that the 72-oz soda case is very common in America.
- latch 14y agoThanks, and if that's true (which I believe you), then I'd argue that Feinman is out of touch with reality. It seems like Lustig is both a researcher and an actual MD, while Feinman is pure research. This is possibly what is keeping Lustig in better touch with the realities of western nutrition. Quickly going Feinman's blog, he seems like a bit of an ass too.. "Avoiding ad hominem is tough. Lustig’s Nature paper contains the single stupidest line in the history of the journal..."
- dschleef 14y agoMeh. I generally assume people have good motives, unless proven otherwise. Lustig is screaming "the sky is falling!" Feinman is responding in a perfectly natural fashion, "If they sky were falling, we would have noticed by now."
- skyfex 14y agoUhm.. But the sky IS falling. You can't argue that there's not an obesity epidemic.
- s8qnze982y 14y agoWatch out, you can't easily assume that it's not caused by general bad nutrition and lifestyle. Assuming that you're probably from the USA, where obesity is ramping up, from a (especially southern) European perspective, the eating culture of USA is very, very bad.
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- ekianjo 14y agoPlease stop using the word epidemic in this way. Especially for a medical condition which is not contagious. I know what you mean but the wording makes it sound you can get obese by being around obese people. Thats tabloid vocabulary at best.
- andrewfelix 14y agoBut it's not an incorrect usage of the term. Epidemic is not exclusive to contagious conditions.
- ekianjo 14y agoI know. That's why I mentioned clearly "especially for a medical condition" - because then you use a figurative word associated with a medical term, while you would expect in that context the other meaning of "epidemic". If you were talking about "epidemic unemployment" there would be no ambiguity, but "epidemic obesity" is a very improper use of the word, ambiguous in this context. Anyway, most of the time if you use the figurative sense of the word, just replacing it with "growth/increase/spread" is good enough. Why use an overly dramatic word ?
- andrewfelix 14y agoBut it's not incorrect or even unusual in a medical context. Epidemic has often been used for non contagious conditions including diabetes, ADHD and obesity. It's a dramatic word, but the obesity rate in the US is dramatic.
- Terretta 14y agoIt certainly is contagious. You can find it occurring in the same patterns of groups of people as other contagious diseases. The method of contagion is peer influence on lifestyle and peer acceptance of the symptoms. People do indeed tend to "get fat by being around fat people". Obesity can be called "socially contagious". http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500368_162-3097001.html http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500368_162-3097001.html
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- daniel-cussen 14y agoLustig is screaming "the sky is falling!" Are you on a sugar high? The sky's fat ass is falling! Dude, never in my life did I see fat people like the ones I've seen in US, and bear in mind, I'm in California. The median is pretty fit, but there are some heavy, heavy tails on that bell curve.
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