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If you've used old style satellite internet and then used starlink, you'll know that this is not the same technology. Starlink has latency and bandwidth that do
by 0xfae 3y ago
If you've used old style satellite internet and then used starlink, you'll know that this is not the same technology. Starlink has latency and bandwidth that doesn't even compare to the companies and satellites you are mentioning.
This is a tech and nerd forum. Let us be excited about new technology.
- vel0city 3y ago> If you've used old style satellite internet AST's satellite wasn't "old style satellite internet". It was at an altitude of 513km. That's roughly the same altitude as SpaceX's satellites (~550km). AST's satellite was absolutely "new technology", last September. SpaceX was beat for the "first phone service satellites", even for low orbit 5G satellites with unmodified phones. https://ast-science.com/2023/09/19/ast-spacemobile-achieves-space-based-5g-cellular-broadband-connectivity-from-everyday-smartphones-another-historic-world-first/ https://ast-science.com/2023/09/19/ast-spacemobile-achieves-...
- pkaye 3y agoHow many satellites does it have up in space?
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- Dylan16807 3y agoI wish everything wouldn't be referred to as just "5G". Looks like they used 800MHz, so basically the longest range cell phone bands. Which is about as expected, none of that super-fragile millimeter wave stuff. SpaceX is using 1900MHz, which will make a difference but probably not a huge difference.
- wmf 3y ago5G NR can run on any band; it's not specific to mmwave.
- Dylan16807 3y agoI know. But 90% of articles call specific arbitrary subsets "5G" and it gets annoying to have the details skipped. By 5G does an article mean the incremental improvements, the expansion in mid-range frequencies, or the mmwave stuff? It's a crapshoot. Let alone more subtle but important information like whether it's 5G in both directions.
- belltaco 3y agoThat doesn't sound like two years ago.
- paxys 3y ago5G is "old style satellite internet" how?
- JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago> > This is a tech and nerd forum. Let us be excited about new technology. It's the same old re-inventing the wheel with Musk cult of personality marketing slapped on top of it. New thing of the 2020s is the mRNA vaccine which solved a big problem, people took it and then endlessly bitched about it while mirin and salivating at the Tesla cybertruck or the 300k Tesla Roadster which will never enter into production. It doesn't pay to build stuff and innovate nowadays, it's more about conning people into thinking that some stuff will be built sometime in the future™ and it will be revolutionary, and then move the goalposts perpetually into the future™
- mardifoufs 3y agoAre you saying SpaceX isn't innovating? This has nothing to do with musk by the way, one can say that SpaceX is impressive and innovative while also disliking musk.
- xeromal 3y agoEverything requires a political stance now.
- JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago> > Are you saying SpaceX isn't innovating? Innovation serves as a means to an end, like for example mRNA vaccines solved a big problem like COVID. SpaceX doesn't solve any problem, 90% of the global population lives in urban areas, they connect to the internet using cell towers propagating 3/4/5G and good old fiber or fiber+copper The remaining 10% is too poor so they cannot afford it, and they are also unskilled so if they want a shot a decent life they'd have to move to cities too where they can start as manual laborers and slowly climb the social ladder, they'd have to do it either independently or thanks to help from NGOs, UNICEF, UN, Doctors without borders etc. To put it bluntly fast internet is the last of their necessities. SpaceX is textbook SV self dealing and wealth isolation where a bunch of assholes (led by the Chief Asshole of SV) who want to play with rockets and get paid for it , so they try to retroactively find a pitch to sell to VCs and asset managers to finance their play time and they do so by pitching them stuff like: "Internet on your 10M sailboat" or "Internet on your 2M Luxury RV" And of course they get billions because VCs are also loaded and so they painted themselves so much in the corner with their wealth that the only thing that makes them enthusiastic is thin marginal improvement to trophy assets like a 10M sailboat or a 2M luxury RV, stuff that is totally uncorrelated with what regular consumers want or what the economy at large needs.