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Not a fan. Wikipedia should be a truly neutral actor - regardless of situation. Once this starts, it won't stop, and it will start to burn the NPOV.

sc68cal 3y ago
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- otabdeveloper4 3y ago
  > genocide Citation, as they say, needed.
- some_random 3y ago
  Providing an up to date, high quality article on an ongoing genocide that reports the best known information from a variety of sources while maintaining credibility with neutrality seems like the best Wikipedia can do not just now but for other future conflicts.
- networkchad 3y ago
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- davidguetta 3y ago
  in the face of 'two groups wanting to genocide themselves'. FTFY
- blitz_skull 3y ago
  You’re correct, but we’re discussing the current Israeli-Palestinian conflict, not a genocide. While it may feel good to use evocative words to spark emotion in others, you’re going to have to cite sources and provide an argument if you want us to earnestly consider your point of view.
  - skyyler 3y ago
    Interestingly, wikipedia has a pretty neutral article on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusatio...
  - sc68cal 3y ago
    The ICJ is having hearings over the genocide in Gaza. https://www.reuters.com/world/icj-slates-hearings-gaza-genocide-case-jan-11-12-2024-01-03/ https://www.reuters.com/world/icj-slates-hearings-gaza-genoc...
    - blitz_skull 3y ago
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      - candiodari 3y ago
        The ICJ is also anything but neutral. The UN General Assembly elects the judges. The UN general assembly that has 164 resolutions against Israel, and ... https://unwatch.org/un-general-assembly-rejects-motion-to-condemn-hamas-calls-for-ceasefire/ https://unwatch.org/un-general-assembly-rejects-motion-to-co... Names aside an organisation whatever you want, but this organisation is anything but neutral. If Israel does not get fair treatment from the people assigning the judges here. And while Israel will go there, they will not accept the judgement of the court (which is the right of any country). And ... the complaint submitted by South Africa is full of factual inaccuracies and, frankly, reads like a rant. Read for yourself here: https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192 https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192 It is a total rant, for example, it directly accuses the U.S. of genocidal acts in Gaza for "failing to use it's influence". It contains outright lies about statements made by officials.

sc68cal 3y ago

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otabdeveloper4 3y ago
> genocide Citation, as they say, needed.
some_random 3y ago
Providing an up to date, high quality article on an ongoing genocide that reports the best known information from a variety of sources while maintaining credibility with neutrality seems like the best Wikipedia can do not just now but for other future conflicts.
networkchad 3y ago
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davidguetta 3y ago
in the face of 'two groups wanting to genocide themselves'. FTFY
blitz_skull 3y ago
You’re correct, but we’re discussing the current Israeli-Palestinian conflict, not a genocide. While it may feel good to use evocative words to spark emotion in others, you’re going to have to cite sources and provide an argument if you want us to earnestly consider your point of view.
- skyyler 3y ago
  Interestingly, wikipedia has a pretty neutral article on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusatio...
- sc68cal 3y ago
  The ICJ is having hearings over the genocide in Gaza. https://www.reuters.com/world/icj-slates-hearings-gaza-genocide-case-jan-11-12-2024-01-03/ https://www.reuters.com/world/icj-slates-hearings-gaza-genoc...
  - blitz_skull 3y ago
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    - candiodari 3y ago
      The ICJ is also anything but neutral. The UN General Assembly elects the judges. The UN general assembly that has 164 resolutions against Israel, and ... https://unwatch.org/un-general-assembly-rejects-motion-to-condemn-hamas-calls-for-ceasefire/ https://unwatch.org/un-general-assembly-rejects-motion-to-co... Names aside an organisation whatever you want, but this organisation is anything but neutral. If Israel does not get fair treatment from the people assigning the judges here. And while Israel will go there, they will not accept the judgement of the court (which is the right of any country). And ... the complaint submitted by South Africa is full of factual inaccuracies and, frankly, reads like a rant. Read for yourself here: https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192 https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192 It is a total rant, for example, it directly accuses the U.S. of genocidal acts in Gaza for "failing to use it's influence". It contains outright lies about statements made by officials.