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Volvo EX30 is looking interesting https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ex30-electric/ https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ex30-electric/

by davmar 3y ago

izacus 3y ago
This thing costs more than 45.000EUR with any kind of equipment and is massive - a far cry away from something like a Renault Clio or similar econobox.
- Philip-J-Fry 3y ago
  The "Ultra" package barely adds anything that's worth it. The only options worthwhile are drive train but the base model is perfectly fine.
- rad_gruchalski 3y ago
  Renault Zoe at $34k?
reducesuffering 3y ago
> Inexpensive > Starts at $35k
- bdcravens 3y ago
  Average new car transaction price in the US is $48k. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a43611570/average-new-car-price-down-still-high/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a43611570/average-new-car-...
  - reducesuffering 3y ago
    And the average new home in the US is $480k, but at a median income of $31k I would never call it inexpensive. Let’s save it for the truly high value purchases like $90 espresso machines, $400 phone, $400 PC, and $300 TV. Maybe a $10k 10 year old Toyota with 150k miles left?
    - throwaway-blaze 3y ago
      Median household income in the US is more like $70k. Median individual income is $40k. Median household also varies tremendously by state, Mississippi is around $44k and Maryland/DC area is $90k.
  - ClumsyPilot 3y ago
    Mean or median? You should not use mean for things like this, if 3 guys buy a Ford for 33k and 1 guy buys a Ferrari for 300k, average price is 100K If 1 guy is dead from hypothermia and the other guy is on fire then on average they have a healthy body temperature
krastanov 3y ago
It is a bit of a culture shock for me to see someone describing this car as "small" (how I understand "econoboxes"). This car is far from small.
- Spunkie 3y ago
  All the impressions I've read about the ex30 is that it is much smaller in person than the pictures let on.
  - krastanov 3y ago
    It is a bit shorter and a bit taller than a Prius, which is why I reacted with surprise above (this does not seem "small" to me).
- dontlaugh 3y ago
  Exactly, it’s 4.25m. Small would be 3.5-4m.
  - aziaziazi 3y ago
    Small is under 2.5m :) https://www.citroen.fr/ami https://www.citroen.fr/ami
seydor 3y ago
Indeed except for the fact that it has no dashscreen and everything is in the hideous tablet.

Volvo EX30 is looking interesting https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ex30-electric/ https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ex30-electric/

by davmar 3y ago

Volvo EX30 is looking interesting https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ex30-electric/ https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ex30-electric/

izacus 3y ago

This thing costs more than 45.000EUR with any kind of equipment and is massive - a far cry away from something like a Renault Clio or similar econobox.

Philip-J-Fry 3y ago
The "Ultra" package barely adds anything that's worth it. The only options worthwhile are drive train but the base model is perfectly fine.
rad_gruchalski 3y ago
Renault Zoe at $34k?

reducesuffering 3y ago

> Inexpensive > Starts at $35k

bdcravens 3y ago
Average new car transaction price in the US is $48k. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a43611570/average-new-car-price-down-still-high/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a43611570/average-new-car-...
- reducesuffering 3y ago
  And the average new home in the US is $480k, but at a median income of $31k I would never call it inexpensive. Let’s save it for the truly high value purchases like $90 espresso machines, $400 phone, $400 PC, and $300 TV. Maybe a $10k 10 year old Toyota with 150k miles left?
  - throwaway-blaze 3y ago
    Median household income in the US is more like $70k. Median individual income is $40k. Median household also varies tremendously by state, Mississippi is around $44k and Maryland/DC area is $90k.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  Mean or median? You should not use mean for things like this, if 3 guys buy a Ford for 33k and 1 guy buys a Ferrari for 300k, average price is 100K If 1 guy is dead from hypothermia and the other guy is on fire then on average they have a healthy body temperature

krastanov 3y ago

It is a bit of a culture shock for me to see someone describing this car as "small" (how I understand "econoboxes"). This car is far from small.

Spunkie 3y ago
All the impressions I've read about the ex30 is that it is much smaller in person than the pictures let on.
- krastanov 3y ago
  It is a bit shorter and a bit taller than a Prius, which is why I reacted with surprise above (this does not seem "small" to me).
dontlaugh 3y ago
Exactly, it’s 4.25m. Small would be 3.5-4m.
- aziaziazi 3y ago
  Small is under 2.5m :) https://www.citroen.fr/ami https://www.citroen.fr/ami

seydor 3y ago

Indeed except for the fact that it has no dashscreen and everything is in the hideous tablet.