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Why does it blow your mind?

hotpotamus 3y ago
Imagining a doctor writing a script for meth is pretty amusing, and maybe if that’s not a cool enough drug, they can hand out some crack or something.
- soudiere 3y ago
  Why is it amusing? Because you think it has no therapeutic value?
  - hotpotamus 3y ago
    I don’t see the point in playing obtuse here.
    - soudiere 3y ago
      Not playing obtuse, trying to get you to say why you think it's so crazy. Section 3 of this 2019 paper has stats on meth (desoxyn) prescriptions https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.23.22275471v1.full.pdf https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.23.22275471v...
      - hotpotamus 3y ago
        > Methamphetamine is a highly addictive psychostimulant and controlled substance that has detrimental health consequences for chronic users I mean, there's that.
        soudiere 3y ago
        That statement is true of all amphetamines. Look, this is what I'm driving at, you appear to have some illusions that methamphetamine is significantly different than other amphetamines, or has some higher toxicity profile, more addictive, IDK I'm trying to get you to tell me your biases. At that point, we can go look at the clinical literature and see what the evidence is.
        hotpotamus 3y ago
        Yes - why, as your own source says, are amphetamines prescribed at 4,000 times the rate of methamphetamine? Is there no reason for that? Why does the medical system have such a bias?
        soudiere 3y ago
        Many reasons, that's a different discussion. Note that you've gone from this statement, to acknowledging that they are regularly prescribed. > Imagining a doctor writing a script for meth is pretty amusing, and maybe if that’s not a cool enough drug, they can hand out some crack or something.
        hotpotamus 3y ago
        I assume in a country of 300 million people, every prescription drug is probably prescribed to someone. I’d say what I take issue with is “regularly”. I’ve known many people who have prescriptions for amphetamine, and zero who ever got a prescription for methamphetamine (though certainly some took it anyway). The 4000:1 prescription number would seem to corroborate my impression that it is quite rare.
- jasomill 3y ago
  Cocaine, like methamphetamine, is a Schedule II controlled substance under US law, so has accepted medical uses. As with meth, typical medical applications of cocaine don't involve smoking it (source: Wikipedia). Legitimate US suppliers for smokable cocaine do exist, however, e.g., https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/sigma/c8912 https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/sigma/c8912 In stock and available for shipping today* **! * “This order may require review prior to shipping.” ** “DEA License Number required at checkout.”
  - hotpotamus 3y ago
    I've taken substances of various schedules legally and otherwise before, and I've never heard of a doctor writing a prescription for methamphetamine. I really wonder if they have it in stock at my local pharmacy.

Imagining a doctor writing a script for meth is pretty amusing, and maybe if that’s not a cool enough drug, they can hand out some crack or something.

soudiere 3y ago
Why is it amusing? Because you think it has no therapeutic value?
- hotpotamus 3y ago
  I don’t see the point in playing obtuse here.
  - soudiere 3y ago
    Not playing obtuse, trying to get you to say why you think it's so crazy. Section 3 of this 2019 paper has stats on meth (desoxyn) prescriptions https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.23.22275471v1.full.pdf https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.23.22275471v...
    - hotpotamus 3y ago
      > Methamphetamine is a highly addictive psychostimulant and controlled substance that has detrimental health consequences for chronic users I mean, there's that.
      - soudiere 3y ago
        That statement is true of all amphetamines. Look, this is what I'm driving at, you appear to have some illusions that methamphetamine is significantly different than other amphetamines, or has some higher toxicity profile, more addictive, IDK I'm trying to get you to tell me your biases. At that point, we can go look at the clinical literature and see what the evidence is.
        hotpotamus 3y ago
        Yes - why, as your own source says, are amphetamines prescribed at 4,000 times the rate of methamphetamine? Is there no reason for that? Why does the medical system have such a bias?
        soudiere 3y ago
        Many reasons, that's a different discussion. Note that you've gone from this statement, to acknowledging that they are regularly prescribed. > Imagining a doctor writing a script for meth is pretty amusing, and maybe if that’s not a cool enough drug, they can hand out some crack or something.
        hotpotamus 3y ago
        I assume in a country of 300 million people, every prescription drug is probably prescribed to someone. I’d say what I take issue with is “regularly”. I’ve known many people who have prescriptions for amphetamine, and zero who ever got a prescription for methamphetamine (though certainly some took it anyway). The 4000:1 prescription number would seem to corroborate my impression that it is quite rare.
jasomill 3y ago
Cocaine, like methamphetamine, is a Schedule II controlled substance under US law, so has accepted medical uses. As with meth, typical medical applications of cocaine don't involve smoking it (source: Wikipedia). Legitimate US suppliers for smokable cocaine do exist, however, e.g., https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/sigma/c8912 https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/sigma/c8912 In stock and available for shipping today* **! * “This order may require review prior to shipping.” ** “DEA License Number required at checkout.”
- hotpotamus 3y ago
  I've taken substances of various schedules legally and otherwise before, and I've never heard of a doctor writing a prescription for methamphetamine. I really wonder if they have it in stock at my local pharmacy.