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What’s wrong with licensing?

by dnndev 3y ago

sigzero 3y ago
https://www.mongodb.com/licensing/server-side-public-license/faq https://www.mongodb.com/licensing/server-side-public-license... I am not sure really. "It should be noted that the new license maintains all of the same freedoms the community has always had with MongoDB under AGPL - they are free to use, review, modify, and redistribute the source code. The only changes are additional terms that make explicit the conditions for offering a publicly available MongoDB as a service. Obviously, this new license helps our business, but it is also important for the MongoDB community. MongoDB has invested over $300M in R&D over the past decade to offer an open database for everyone, and with this change, MongoDB will continue to be able to aggressively invest in R&D to drive further innovation and value for the community."
bdcravens 3y ago
https://thenewstack.io/the-case-against-the-server-side-public-license-sspl/ https://thenewstack.io/the-case-against-the-server-side-publ...
forwardemail 3y ago
Encryption at rest is not supported in the community/free version of MongoDB. We built an email service (IMAP support added a month ago) and wrote a WebSocket to SQLite layer to solve our encryption at rest needs for storage. See our deep dive at https://forwardemail.net/blog/docs/best-quantum-safe-encrypted-email-service https://forwardemail.net/blog/docs/best-quantum-safe-encrypt... for insight.
- dnndev 3y ago
  Really? How many open source databases do you offer? Some may say it’s not right for randos to complain when you give something away and they complain that it’s missing basics. I just happy someone else wrote most of what I need and I can extend it if needed.
- Nextgrid 3y ago
  I wonder, why would you want DB-managed encryption instead of just putting its storage directory in a LUKS-encrypted volume?
  - forwardemail 3y ago
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- PeterZaitsev 3y ago
  Note Percona Server for MongoDB is drop-in replacement for MongoDB and supports Data at Rest Encryption, on SSPL version https://docs.percona.com/percona-server-for-mongodb/5.0/data-at-rest-encryption.html https://docs.percona.com/percona-server-for-mongodb/5.0/data...
mananaysiempre 3y ago
MongoDB’s SSPL is neither an open source license[1] nor, most likely, a free software one[2]. Its definition of offering the licensed software as a service is so broad most Linux distributions[3–6] flat out refuse to ship MongoDB (not even in a nonfree repository or the equivalent) so as to (among other things) avoid placing the operators of their package mirrors in legal jeopardy. [1] https://blog.opensource.org/the-sspl-is-not-an-open-source-license/ https://blog.opensource.org/the-sspl-is-not-an-open-source-l... [2] https://opensource.stackexchange.com/q/13888 https://opensource.stackexchange.com/q/13888 [3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=915537 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=915537 [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MongoDB_Removal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MongoDB_Removal [5] https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1122267 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1122267 [6] https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-dev-public@lists.archlinux.org/thread/OY2DLNWTZOBPAHFE5FSV4Q6AIWGZO6KV/ https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-dev-public@li...

What’s wrong with licensing?

by dnndev 3y ago

What’s wrong with licensing?

https://www.mongodb.com/licensing/server-side-public-license/faq https://www.mongodb.com/licensing/server-side-public-license... I am not sure really. "It should be noted that the new license maintains all of the same freedoms the community has always had with MongoDB under AGPL - they are free to use, review, modify, and redistribute the source code. The only changes are additional terms that make explicit the conditions for offering a publicly available MongoDB as a service. Obviously, this new license helps our business, but it is also important for the MongoDB community. MongoDB has invested over $300M in R&D over the past decade to offer an open database for everyone, and with this change, MongoDB will continue to be able to aggressively invest in R&D to drive further innovation and value for the community."

bdcravens 3y ago

https://thenewstack.io/the-case-against-the-server-side-public-license-sspl/ https://thenewstack.io/the-case-against-the-server-side-publ...

forwardemail 3y ago

Encryption at rest is not supported in the community/free version of MongoDB. We built an email service (IMAP support added a month ago) and wrote a WebSocket to SQLite layer to solve our encryption at rest needs for storage. See our deep dive at https://forwardemail.net/blog/docs/best-quantum-safe-encrypted-email-service https://forwardemail.net/blog/docs/best-quantum-safe-encrypt... for insight.

dnndev 3y ago
Really? How many open source databases do you offer? Some may say it’s not right for randos to complain when you give something away and they complain that it’s missing basics. I just happy someone else wrote most of what I need and I can extend it if needed.
Nextgrid 3y ago
I wonder, why would you want DB-managed encryption instead of just putting its storage directory in a LUKS-encrypted volume?
- forwardemail 3y ago
  [dead]
PeterZaitsev 3y ago
Note Percona Server for MongoDB is drop-in replacement for MongoDB and supports Data at Rest Encryption, on SSPL version https://docs.percona.com/percona-server-for-mongodb/5.0/data-at-rest-encryption.html https://docs.percona.com/percona-server-for-mongodb/5.0/data...

mananaysiempre 3y ago

MongoDB’s SSPL is neither an open source license[1] nor, most likely, a free software one[2]. Its definition of offering the licensed software as a service is so broad most Linux distributions[3–6] flat out refuse to ship MongoDB (not even in a nonfree repository or the equivalent) so as to (among other things) avoid placing the operators of their package mirrors in legal jeopardy. [1] https://blog.opensource.org/the-sspl-is-not-an-open-source-license/ https://blog.opensource.org/the-sspl-is-not-an-open-source-l... [2] https://opensource.stackexchange.com/q/13888 https://opensource.stackexchange.com/q/13888 [3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=915537 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=915537 [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MongoDB_Removal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MongoDB_Removal [5] https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1122267 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1122267 [6] https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-dev-public@lists.archlinux.org/thread/OY2DLNWTZOBPAHFE5FSV4Q6AIWGZO6KV/ https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-dev-public@li...