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This is great news now that the industry phased out physical audio connection on phones in favor of wireless. Good job, guys.

by tungah 3y ago

slacka 3y ago
This vulnerability is about injecting keystrokes into connected wireless keyboards and mice.[1] With the phone industry adoption of USB-C, they've made wired easier than ever before. [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/bluetooth/bluez.git/commit/profiles/input?id=25a471a83e02e1effb15d5a488b3f0085eaeb675 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/bluetooth/bluez.git/commit/pr...
- chalsprhebaodu 3y ago
  > This is great news now that the industry phased out physical **audio** connection on phones in favor of wireless. I recognize that there’s still wired audio connectors but you know full well that the experience is not great because the industry wanted to remove audio jacks.
- davrosthedalek 3y ago
  What does this have to do with the fact that now people have to switch on bluetooth for audio, instead of having a cable connection? And an attack requiring a physical cable connection is a little bit more visible, and less viable if I have my phone in my hand, than a wireless attack via bluetooth, don't you think?
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - punkybr3wster 3y ago
    You don’t “have to” switch to only wireless. There are plenty of inexpensive usb-c DACs and even the overpriced Apple usb-c to 3.5mm adapter is a whopping $9.
- core_dumped 3y ago
  This comment is generating far more snark than the parent to be frank. Not everyone wants to use a USB-C dongle so they can use their old 3.5 headphones, and even more people don’t really care about being able to have a mouse and keyboard on their phone in the first place. If you want me to show you what the “thoughtful discussion” is: The parent made the point that phone companies have been following a trend of locking down physical access in favor of wireless tech. I’ll add that this has not only removed beloved features, but now that everyone is being forced down the Bluetooth/wifi stack we are far more susceptible in public when exploits like these rear their ugly heads. There are roundabout solutions like using a USB-C dongle but… really? Does anyone find that to be effective at all? What about when you want more than one connection? You need a splitter or a hub. It’s just such a seemingly useless “improvement” if it feels like we’re going backwards having to buy extra stuff. If you want to reply with your disagreement, please do so in a thoughtful manner. Please think before you post. I come to this website not for snark, but for thoughtful conversation ;) Ty
- msephton 3y ago
  Yet you reply with snark? Be the change you want to see in this world.
- fsflover 3y ago
  My phone has both audio jack and USB-C.
asystole 3y ago
USB-C DACs are inexpensive and widely available.
- whelp_24 3y ago
  Ah, yes, the dongle, it means you choose between charging or headphones, and your port is more susceptible to damage. There was no reason to remove it in the first place.

This is great news now that the industry phased out physical audio connection on phones in favor of wireless. Good job, guys.

by tungah 3y ago

This is great news now that the industry phased out physical audio connection on phones in favor of wireless. Good job, guys.

slacka 3y ago

This vulnerability is about injecting keystrokes into connected wireless keyboards and mice.[1] With the phone industry adoption of USB-C, they've made wired easier than ever before. [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/bluetooth/bluez.git/commit/profiles/input?id=25a471a83e02e1effb15d5a488b3f0085eaeb675 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/bluetooth/bluez.git/commit/pr...

chalsprhebaodu 3y ago
> This is great news now that the industry phased out physical **audio** connection on phones in favor of wireless. I recognize that there’s still wired audio connectors but you know full well that the experience is not great because the industry wanted to remove audio jacks.
davrosthedalek 3y ago
What does this have to do with the fact that now people have to switch on bluetooth for audio, instead of having a cable connection? And an attack requiring a physical cable connection is a little bit more visible, and less viable if I have my phone in my hand, than a wireless attack via bluetooth, don't you think?
- deleted 3y ago
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- punkybr3wster 3y ago
  You don’t “have to” switch to only wireless. There are plenty of inexpensive usb-c DACs and even the overpriced Apple usb-c to 3.5mm adapter is a whopping $9.
core_dumped 3y ago
This comment is generating far more snark than the parent to be frank. Not everyone wants to use a USB-C dongle so they can use their old 3.5 headphones, and even more people don’t really care about being able to have a mouse and keyboard on their phone in the first place. If you want me to show you what the “thoughtful discussion” is: The parent made the point that phone companies have been following a trend of locking down physical access in favor of wireless tech. I’ll add that this has not only removed beloved features, but now that everyone is being forced down the Bluetooth/wifi stack we are far more susceptible in public when exploits like these rear their ugly heads. There are roundabout solutions like using a USB-C dongle but… really? Does anyone find that to be effective at all? What about when you want more than one connection? You need a splitter or a hub. It’s just such a seemingly useless “improvement” if it feels like we’re going backwards having to buy extra stuff. If you want to reply with your disagreement, please do so in a thoughtful manner. Please think before you post. I come to this website not for snark, but for thoughtful conversation ;) Ty
msephton 3y ago
Yet you reply with snark? Be the change you want to see in this world.
fsflover 3y ago
My phone has both audio jack and USB-C.

asystole 3y ago

USB-C DACs are inexpensive and widely available.

whelp_24 3y ago
Ah, yes, the dongle, it means you choose between charging or headphones, and your port is more susceptible to damage. There was no reason to remove it in the first place.