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This really shouldn't be a shock for Netflix employees. According to Netflix's culture page (https://jobs.netflix.com/culture https://jobs.netflix.com/culture)

This really shouldn't be a shock for Netflix employees. According to Netflix's culture page (https://jobs.netflix.com/culture https://jobs.netflix.com/culture) They are a team, not a family. When you're on a team you know you can be cut at any moment. It's ruthless over there and the recruiters will make sure you're aware of that early in the interview process. Netflix was never known as a good place to work which is why they pay outrageous salaries and the average employment length is a little over a year.

cableshaft 3y ago
Company "families" can be cut at any moment in a state with at will employment also (and they absolutely will lay you off too). They just gaslight you into thinking it won't happen so that you'll stay loyal as long as they do want you to stay.
- SirMaster 3y ago
  Sure, they can. But there are actually good family companies out there that deeply care about their employees. Not saying they are common, but they do exist. Just an example. My dad who works for a small construction company as a steel detailer, when all the construction work was put on hold during covid, the company told the employees to go out and find places looking for volunteer workers, and the company would pay them their normal salary to do the volunteer work. They have shown time and time again through the years (and he's been with them basically his whole professional life) that they do everything they can to help their employees.
  - camhart 3y ago
    > But there are actually good family companies out there that deeply care about their employees. Doing what's best for the company long term is generally what's best for employees in the long term. Sometimes layoffs are what's best. Companies that deeply care about their employees will still have layoffs.
manojlds 3y ago
Only difference from that and others is they are upfront about it. Which is always better.
SoftTalker 3y ago
Many families are pretty fucked up too, to be honest.
Toutouxc 3y ago
Wow, that culture page reads like something from Black Mirror. But I guess I'd also endure a lot of stuff for a year of outrageous salary, then peace out to a beach somewhere.
- popularrecluse 3y ago
  Yeah guess they are self-selecting for the kind of person that will read through that drivel.
- 3D30497420 3y ago
  Oh wow, yeah. I love this one: "Selflessness. You seek what is best for Netflix, not yourself or your team". Sounds like something a cult leader would have you commit to. Plus, that page is insanely long.
  - cloverich 3y ago
    Its intended to be a statement against the self serving politics present at many companies; it doesnt mean be a slave to netflix and forgo self care or anything. Just a reasonable north star: You are employed by the company to act in its best interest.
    - fnfjfk 3y ago
      This is an “everyone can win” situation. Netflix leadership could align incentives so that doing the best thing for Netflix is also the selfish thing that maximizes your performance review, bonus, and RSUs. Statements like this imply that doing the best thing for the company won’t be rewarded in the best way for individuals. Why not?
      - ecnahc515 3y ago
        > Statements like this imply that doing the best thing for the company won’t be rewarded in the best way for individuals. Why not? I think part of it is that they believe you are compensated well enough that you don't need extra rewarding.
nemo44x 3y ago
I think it's great they lay it out. I never understood the whole "we're a family" thing that so many companies, especially startups, pretend to do. Netflix is open that they want the best players they possibly can so they can achieve the highest level of greatness they can. They want people who want to put in the effort to achieve this. This may not be for everyone and that's OK. But at least they are upfront about it. Champions have different mindsets and have goals that require so much effort.
nobodyandproud 3y ago
At least Netflix is upfront. At my “WLB friendly” company, they’re addicted to cost-cutting by off-shoring. Less pay but stability was the draw. As soon as the tech-hiring boom was over they started finding ways to gas-light: - If you’re not delivering/under-delivering, it’s certainly a red-flag. - If you’re “overworking” that’s a red-flag. - If you’re phenomenal and young, they’ll keep you and look the other way. - If you’re off-shore, they’ll also look the other way. - And raise concerns, and I get red flagged (honestly, I don’t have the right skillset here). Source: Watching my US team slowly get dismantled, while my manager says otherwise.
- oumua_don17 3y ago
  >> At my “WLB friendly” company, they’re addicted to cost-cutting by off-shoring. Less pay but stability was the draw Is that a past market leader semiconductor company now struggling to get it's act together?
  - nobodyandproud 3y ago
    Fintech.
karmasimida 3y ago
Family is about protecting the bottom line Company is about the upside Ofc they are different.

cableshaft 3y ago

Company "families" can be cut at any moment in a state with at will employment also (and they absolutely will lay you off too). They just gaslight you into thinking it won't happen so that you'll stay loyal as long as they do want you to stay.

SirMaster 3y ago
Sure, they can. But there are actually good family companies out there that deeply care about their employees. Not saying they are common, but they do exist. Just an example. My dad who works for a small construction company as a steel detailer, when all the construction work was put on hold during covid, the company told the employees to go out and find places looking for volunteer workers, and the company would pay them their normal salary to do the volunteer work. They have shown time and time again through the years (and he's been with them basically his whole professional life) that they do everything they can to help their employees.
- camhart 3y ago
  > But there are actually good family companies out there that deeply care about their employees. Doing what's best for the company long term is generally what's best for employees in the long term. Sometimes layoffs are what's best. Companies that deeply care about their employees will still have layoffs.

manojlds 3y ago

Only difference from that and others is they are upfront about it. Which is always better.

SoftTalker 3y ago

Many families are pretty fucked up too, to be honest.

Toutouxc 3y ago

Wow, that culture page reads like something from Black Mirror. But I guess I'd also endure a lot of stuff for a year of outrageous salary, then peace out to a beach somewhere.

popularrecluse 3y ago
Yeah guess they are self-selecting for the kind of person that will read through that drivel.
3D30497420 3y ago
Oh wow, yeah. I love this one: "Selflessness. You seek what is best for Netflix, not yourself or your team". Sounds like something a cult leader would have you commit to. Plus, that page is insanely long.
- cloverich 3y ago
  Its intended to be a statement against the self serving politics present at many companies; it doesnt mean be a slave to netflix and forgo self care or anything. Just a reasonable north star: You are employed by the company to act in its best interest.
  - fnfjfk 3y ago
    This is an “everyone can win” situation. Netflix leadership could align incentives so that doing the best thing for Netflix is also the selfish thing that maximizes your performance review, bonus, and RSUs. Statements like this imply that doing the best thing for the company won’t be rewarded in the best way for individuals. Why not?
    - ecnahc515 3y ago
      > Statements like this imply that doing the best thing for the company won’t be rewarded in the best way for individuals. Why not? I think part of it is that they believe you are compensated well enough that you don't need extra rewarding.

nemo44x 3y ago

I think it's great they lay it out. I never understood the whole "we're a family" thing that so many companies, especially startups, pretend to do. Netflix is open that they want the best players they possibly can so they can achieve the highest level of greatness they can. They want people who want to put in the effort to achieve this. This may not be for everyone and that's OK. But at least they are upfront about it. Champions have different mindsets and have goals that require so much effort.

nobodyandproud 3y ago

At least Netflix is upfront. At my “WLB friendly” company, they’re addicted to cost-cutting by off-shoring. Less pay but stability was the draw. As soon as the tech-hiring boom was over they started finding ways to gas-light: - If you’re not delivering/under-delivering, it’s certainly a red-flag. - If you’re “overworking” that’s a red-flag. - If you’re phenomenal and young, they’ll keep you and look the other way. - If you’re off-shore, they’ll also look the other way. - And raise concerns, and I get red flagged (honestly, I don’t have the right skillset here). Source: Watching my US team slowly get dismantled, while my manager says otherwise.

oumua_don17 3y ago
>> At my “WLB friendly” company, they’re addicted to cost-cutting by off-shoring. Less pay but stability was the draw Is that a past market leader semiconductor company now struggling to get it's act together?
- nobodyandproud 3y ago
  Fintech.

karmasimida 3y ago

Family is about protecting the bottom line Company is about the upside Ofc they are different.