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> When a stranger murdered Kitty Genovese outside of her Brooklyn apartment while thirty seven bystanders watched without so much as calling the police, the Vol

> When a stranger murdered Kitty Genovese outside of her Brooklyn apartment while thirty seven bystanders watched without so much as calling the police, the Volunteer's Dilemma went mainstream This article cites the murder of Kitty Genovese as an example of the bystander effect / volunteer's dilemma. More recent research, including a documentary by Kitty's brother who interviews witnesses (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3568002/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3568002/), has shown that the police report and subsequent newspaper reporting of 37 witnesses doing nothing is completely wrong. See https://www.npr.org/2014/03/03/284002294/what-really-happened-the-night-kitty-genovese-was-murdered https://www.npr.org/2014/03/03/284002294/what-really-happene... and https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/03/10/a-call-for-help https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/03/10/a-call-for-hel... . The New York Times has updated their original article acknowledging it's incorrect (https://web.archive.org/web/20181108183955/https://www.nytimes.com/1964/03/27/archives/37-who-saw-murder-didnt-call-the-police-apathy-at-stabbing-of.html https://web.archive.org/web/20181108183955/https://www.nytim...)

rufus_foreman 3y ago
From the New York Times update link: "A.M. Rosenthal, who went on to become executive editor of The Times, stands by the article he assigned to Mr. Gansberg 40 years ago, right down to the word ''watched'' in its opening sentence. This questioning of details, he said, is to be expected. ''In a story that gets a lot of attention, there's always somebody who's saying, 'Well, that's not really what it's supposed to be,''' said Mr. Rosenthal, who is retired from The Times and now writes a column for The Daily News. There may have been minor inaccuracies, he allows, but none that alter the story's essential meaning. ''There may have been 38, there may have been 39,'' he said, ''but the whole picture, as I saw it, was very affecting.''" Does that sound like "completely wrong" to you?
- dventimi 3y ago
  Yes. It sounds like the executive editor of The Times was completely wrong but refused to accept it.
- corianas 3y ago
  Yes. Especially since they have found that yes there was a call to the police. That was after the initial attack was stopped when someone called out from the windows above and she was only murdered when the attcker came back to finish the job down a dark lane. So yes Sounds like lies to me.

rufus_foreman 3y ago

From the New York Times update link: "A.M. Rosenthal, who went on to become executive editor of The Times, stands by the article he assigned to Mr. Gansberg 40 years ago, right down to the word ''watched'' in its opening sentence. This questioning of details, he said, is to be expected. ''In a story that gets a lot of attention, there's always somebody who's saying, 'Well, that's not really what it's supposed to be,''' said Mr. Rosenthal, who is retired from The Times and now writes a column for The Daily News. There may have been minor inaccuracies, he allows, but none that alter the story's essential meaning. ''There may have been 38, there may have been 39,'' he said, ''but the whole picture, as I saw it, was very affecting.''" Does that sound like "completely wrong" to you?

dventimi 3y ago
Yes. It sounds like the executive editor of The Times was completely wrong but refused to accept it.
corianas 3y ago
Yes. Especially since they have found that yes there was a call to the police. That was after the initial attack was stopped when someone called out from the windows above and she was only murdered when the attcker came back to finish the job down a dark lane. So yes Sounds like lies to me.