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See also Senator Paul going after the PATRIOT act in particular. https://www.paul.senate.gov/issues/protecting-privacy-civil-liberties/ https://www.paul.senate

• kurthr 3y ago
  Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. (not referring to Wyden) Really, the best reason (from the security org point of view) not to collect so much surveillance on your home population, is because it creates a single point of failure for foreign adversaries to gain access. Most of the interesting data is already commercially available for advertising.
  • tharmas 3y ago
    Excellent and very WISE observation. Why, oh why, do people in charge never consider the Law of Unintended Consequences?
    • smegger001 3y ago
      Because to keep their jobs they have to be seen as doing something and the old 'this is something therefore it must be done.' truism still hold. They never look farther ahead than the next election, were lucky if the look farther than the next nights news most of the time
      • sonicanatidae 3y ago
        The people who make these laws are not affected, and the people who execute these actions are not the people that make these laws.
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        • hulitu 3y ago
          They will be. And they will be surprised.
          • sonicanatidae 3y ago
            Oh, I never said they weren't due for an ass whipping, I'm just describing how it happens.
  • kulahan 3y ago
    We learned this lesson the hard way when China stole a ton of military members' personal info.
    • hulitu 3y ago
      I don't think they learned anything.
• thinkingtoilet 3y ago
  Don't forget then house representative and now senator, Bernie Sanders.
  • thedaly 3y ago
    Unfortunately, Bernie talks the talk, but has failed to walk the walk in recent years. For example, congress was within one vote from passing a law that would require warrants for surveillance and missed it because Sanders wasn't there to vote. The Senate on Thursday took up a key bill to reauthorize domestic surveillance programs while making changes to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, with several substantial amendments on the line. One of the amendments, introduced by Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden and Republican Sen. Steve Daines, would have required authorities to obtain a warrant to access internet users’ search histories and browsing information. Uh, yes, pass that?? The amendment, however, met an extremely Senate grave: It “failed” with 59 yeas to 37 nays, one short of the 60-vote threshold it needed to overcome the streamlined vestigial filibuster. The splits didn’t fall neatly along partisan lines: 24 Republicans voted for it, while 10 Democrats voted against it. (Would you like to see the names of the Democrats who voted against it? Their names are: Tom Carper, Bob Casey, Dianne Feinstein, Maggie Hassan, Doug Jones, Tim Kaine, Joe Manchin, Jeanne Shaheen, Mark Warner, and Sheldon Whitehouse.) Source: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/bernie-sanders-absent-as-anti-surveillance-senate-amendment-fails.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/bernie-sanders-a...