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I appreciate the sentiment but the idea that people support policy that’s good for them isn’t much better either. For an obvious example check how many people

I appreciate the sentiment but the idea that people support policy that’s good for them isn’t much better either. For an obvious example check how many people support the Affordable Care Act vs Obamacare.

underseacables 3y ago
affordable care act vs Obamacare Those are the same thing…
- xnx 3y ago
  That's the point. People liked the policy, but we're biased about anything with the word "Obama".
  - underseacables 3y ago
    I did not like the policy. It caused my health insurance to jump from about $40 a month to $300 a month. My deductible went up, my co-pay went up, it got worse. There was a time when I had to let the health insurance go because I couldn't afford it anymore. The government should not have intervened in the marketplace, and I will not support a government health insurance program, everything the government gets involved in goes completely out of control.
lotsofpulp 3y ago
> For an obvious example check how many people support the Affordable Care Act vs Obamacare. 100%, since they are the same thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Care_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Care_Act Also, the ACA has undoubtedly resulted in more people getting more healthcare than in pre-ACA. The provisions to require covering people with pre existing health conditions and eliminating out of pocket maximums are a massive improvement over the pre-ACA days.
- ghaff 3y ago
  The point was that a lot of people support things differently based on what they're called. And, yes, if nothing else people with pre-existing conditions being able to get healthcare outside of employers (even if expensive) is a significant win IMO.
- FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
  I think the "joke" was that opinion polls will show very different results if you call it "The Affordable Care Act" vs. if you call it "Obamacare" -- a fact which casts doubt on the decision-making abilities of voters.

underseacables 3y ago

affordable care act vs Obamacare Those are the same thing…

xnx 3y ago
That's the point. People liked the policy, but we're biased about anything with the word "Obama".
- underseacables 3y ago
  I did not like the policy. It caused my health insurance to jump from about $40 a month to $300 a month. My deductible went up, my co-pay went up, it got worse. There was a time when I had to let the health insurance go because I couldn't afford it anymore. The government should not have intervened in the marketplace, and I will not support a government health insurance program, everything the government gets involved in goes completely out of control.

lotsofpulp 3y ago

> For an obvious example check how many people support the Affordable Care Act vs Obamacare. 100%, since they are the same thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Care_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Care_Act Also, the ACA has undoubtedly resulted in more people getting more healthcare than in pre-ACA. The provisions to require covering people with pre existing health conditions and eliminating out of pocket maximums are a massive improvement over the pre-ACA days.

ghaff 3y ago
The point was that a lot of people support things differently based on what they're called. And, yes, if nothing else people with pre-existing conditions being able to get healthcare outside of employers (even if expensive) is a significant win IMO.
FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
I think the "joke" was that opinion polls will show very different results if you call it "The Affordable Care Act" vs. if you call it "Obamacare" -- a fact which casts doubt on the decision-making abilities of voters.