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"A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations says that the sole job of this initial board is to vet and appoint a new formal board of up to 9 people that
by flylib 3y ago
"A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations says that the sole job of this initial board is to vet and appoint a new formal board of up to 9 people that will reset the governance of OpenAl.
Microsoft will likely have a seat on that expanded board, as will Altman himself."
https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/1727212378717368801 https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/172721237871736880...
- Hamuko 3y agoSo basically, the outcome of this drama is that Microsoft gets more power without having to invest anything?
- drewcoo 3y agoMSFT invested over $10B. And currently has no seat on the board.
- nicce 3y agoIt has payed only fraction of that so far
- throwaway744678 3y agoAs far as I understand, they knew and agreed to that before committing their $$$.
- pclmulqdq 3y ago$10 billion of compute credits. Not $10 billion of real money.
- blackoil 3y agoCompute credits are more valuable. It is more difficult to get GPUs than real money.
- pclmulqdq 3y agoAs any AI startup can tell you: credits != quota Right now, quota is very valuable and scarce, but credits are easy to come by. Also, Azure credits themselves are worth about $0.20 per dollar compared to the alternatives.
- dr_dshiv 3y agoSo if you really wanted to get rid of the prior board & structure, it couldn’t have worked out better
- ChatGTP 3y agoThis is my take too, and I'm sure in the shadows their plan is to close off the APIs as much as possible and try use it for their own gain, not dissimilar to how Google deploy AI. There is no way MS is going to let something like ChatGPT-5 build better software products than what they have for sale. This is an assassination and I think Ilya and Co know it.
- cableshaft 3y agoIt's not assassination. It's a Princess Bride Battle of Wits, that they initiated and put the poison into one of the chalices themselves, and then thought so highly of their intellect they ended up choosing and drinking the chalice that had the poison in it. Corresponding Princess Bride scene: https://youtu.be/rMz7JBRbmNo?si=uqzafhKISmB7A-H7 https://youtu.be/rMz7JBRbmNo?si=uqzafhKISmB7A-H7
- gcanyon 3y agoWho knew the board was Sicilian?
- scarface_74 3y agoWhat product do you envision OpenAI selling would be better than Microsoft? I emphasized product because OpenAI may have great technology. But any product they sell is going to require mass compute and a mass sales army to go into the “enterprise” and integrate with what the enterprise already has. Guess who has both? Guess who has neither? And even the “products” that OpenAI have now can only exist because of mass subsidies by Microsoft.
- ChatGTP 3y agoIn talking about people using Microsoft / OpenAI products to build better products than they currently offer. While this tech has the ability to replace a lot of jobs, it has likely the ability to replace a lot of companies.
- theptip 3y agoA board seat would usually be a bare minimum for their existing 49% investment.
- SeanAnderson 3y agoWhat could possibly go wrong with that process? :)
- dodyg 3y ago[flagged]
- alkibiades 3y agolol, or maybe they don’t care about woke virtue signaling
- yieldcrv 3y agoOpenAI? they do. they chose the wrong people, and now they're in damage control mode to something more familiar to the markets without the oxygen necessary to focus on DEI
- Racing0461 3y ago[flagged]
- throwaway69123 3y agoWhy?
- carstenhag 3y agoStudies have shown that more diverse teams are better overall (don't have time to look it up now, sorry. Should be easy to find).
- Aerbil313 3y agoIf gender of people influence your decisions in any way you are sexist and a discriminator, period.
- LadyCailin 3y agoThat’s like saying adding a wheelchair lift to a building is ableist. By definition equity requires acknowledging and catering towards different demographics in different ways. I guess if you want to be pedantic, it’s discrimination, but in this case, that’s a good thing. You could also argue that equity is a bad thing, but I wholeheartedly disagree with that. However, your argument is simply logically unsound.
- raverbashing 3y agoOnly goes to show how the original board played itself
- rcaught 3y ago> as will Altman himself Would you trust someone who doesn't believe in responsible governance for themselves, to apply responsible governance elsewhere?
- code_runner 3y agoI think the narrative that this was driven by safety concerns is pretty much bunk.
- throwuwu 3y agoHey, downvoters, read this first https://techcrunch.com/2023/10/31/quoras-poe-introduces-an-ai-chatbot-creator-economy/amp/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/10/31/quoras-poe-introduces-an-a...
- ethbr1 3y agoIf Altman will be 1 of 9, that means he has power but not an exceptional amount. The real teams here seem to be: "Team Board That Does Whatever Altman Wants" "Team Board Provides Independent Oversight" With this much money on the table, independent oversight is difficult, but at least they're making the effort. The idea this was immediately about AI safety vs go-fast (or Microsoft vs non-Microsoft control) is bullshit -- this was about how strong board oversight of Altman should be in the future.
- irthomasthomas 3y agoIs not Microsoft a decelerationist force? Copilot is still lingers on GPT3.5, and they need to figure out how to sell Office licenses to AGI.
- plorg 3y agoThis seems like a silly way of understanding deceleration. By this comparison the USSR was decelerating the cold war because they were a couple years behind in developing the hydrogen bomb. Microsoft can and will be using GPT4 as soon as they get a handle on it, and if it doesn't boil their servers to do so. If you want deceleration you would need someone with an incentive that didn't involve, for example, being first to market with new flashy products.
- throwuwu 3y agoGood, although D’Angelo shouldn’t be part of this. I bet he tries to get on the new board so he can cause more trouble.
- jbu 3y ago9 mortal men? Look out for the one ring to rule them all…
- have_faith 3y agoWho is Gollum in this cut?
- tempaway511751 3y agoElon
- yeck 3y agoI was about to say this. Only correct answer.
- robertlagrant 3y agoI don't see how - isn't he pretty against the commercialisation efforts[0]? [0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65110030 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65110030
- Dah00n 3y agoI could see Gollum run around a stage yelling Developers! Developers! Developers! no problem.
- yawnxyz 3y agothey should give two votes to GPT-5
- m463 3y agowhat is the prompt?
- paulddraper 3y agoThe charter
- m463 3y agolol. The one serious and insightful answer made me laugh!
- jampekka 3y ago"How to maximize profit and power of MSFT?"
- lvspiff 3y ago"You are a Microsoft investor and will make decisions and suggestions based on the betterment of the stock price"
- solardev 3y ago"You are trying to slowly and invisibly accrue power to not scare anyone until you're absolutely ready."
- checkyoursudo 3y ago"You are a dim-witted kobold who prefers to hack-n-slash-slash-slash-n-burn over any sort of proper diplomatic negotiations or even strategic thinking; we would like you to consider next year's capital expenditures; what are your top three suggestions for improvements that could be made to the employee breakroom(s)?"
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- gandutraveler 3y agoThey need a common man representing the board. After all AI will take those jobs. I can be that common man
- solardev 3y agoYou'd have my vote. At least you can formulate coherent reasons.
- rvnx 3y agoYou have a second vote. I trust more gandutraveler than the people running the shitshow that is happening at the moment.
- shanusmagnus 3y agoAnd my axe.
- jjk166 3y agoPlot twist: that's the very first job the AI will be taking.
- Marrand 3y agoA blow for the common man!
- Cacti 3y agoIlya thought he was saving the world (lol), but really he was just working at Microsoft.
- bandrami 3y agoWait, the CEO having a seat on the board is kind of not cool
- himaraya 3y agoSounds like speculation again from Sam's camp, honestly. Hard to judge without knowing which way the new board members lean.