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This is the worst type of regulatory overreach - a true innovation killer - putting useless regulatory burden on all car manufacturers. It will only benefit the

by hallqv 3y ago

This is the worst type of regulatory overreach - a true innovation killer - putting useless regulatory burden on all car manufacturers. It will only benefit the large incumbents that can afford to be inefficient. In what world (except for a communist one) is it the role of the government to put arbitrary laws in place pandering to nische interests like this one? The role for regulations is in ensuring the safety of citizens and fighting mono/oligo-polies (instead of helping them, like in this case).

richbell 3y ago
> The role for regulations is in ensuring the safety of citizens and fighting mono/oligo-polies (instead of helping them, like in this case). If this is so beneficial to auto makers, it's curious why they've invested so much money in lobbying and advertising to try and defeat it. Perhaps it's more complicated than you're implying?
- hallqv 3y ago
  Of course it’s not beneficial per se to auto makers but it’s relatively more troublesome for smaller automakers than bigger ones. Unless they are focused solely on providing cars that are easy to repair of course. In that case they will be given a government mandated market advantage in true communist fashion. History has clearly taught us that socialism doesn’t work - why do we keep forgetting?
  - alextingle 3y ago
    > *market* advantage in true *communist* fashion You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
    - hallqv 3y ago
      What do you mean? China is the major communist economy in the world and they have plenty of “markets“, but the CPC are the ones who pick the winners through legislation and/or subsidies.
      - richbell 3y ago
        > China is the major communist economy in the world... Look up "State Capitalism".
  - richbell 3y ago
    > In that case they will be given a government mandated market advantage in true communist fashion. The USA is a capitalist county. "Communism" and "Socialism" are not synonyms for "the government is doing things I disagree with."
    - hallqv 3y ago
      As I stated above what I disagree is a system where legislation is used for other purposes than 1) protecting citizens from harm 2) combating anti-competitive practices by incumbent businesses. The legislation in question clearly falls outside these two categories.
      - stodor89 3y ago
        Wait what? Being able to repair my stuff is obviously 1) protecting me from harm and 2) combating anti-competitive practices.

by hallqv 3y ago

richbell 3y ago

> The role for regulations is in ensuring the safety of citizens and fighting mono/oligo-polies (instead of helping them, like in this case). If this is so beneficial to auto makers, it's curious why they've invested so much money in lobbying and advertising to try and defeat it. Perhaps it's more complicated than you're implying?

hallqv 3y ago
Of course it’s not beneficial per se to auto makers but it’s relatively more troublesome for smaller automakers than bigger ones. Unless they are focused solely on providing cars that are easy to repair of course. In that case they will be given a government mandated market advantage in true communist fashion. History has clearly taught us that socialism doesn’t work - why do we keep forgetting?
- alextingle 3y ago
  > *market* advantage in true *communist* fashion You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
  - hallqv 3y ago
    What do you mean? China is the major communist economy in the world and they have plenty of “markets“, but the CPC are the ones who pick the winners through legislation and/or subsidies.
    - richbell 3y ago
      > China is the major communist economy in the world... Look up "State Capitalism".
- richbell 3y ago
  > In that case they will be given a government mandated market advantage in true communist fashion. The USA is a capitalist county. "Communism" and "Socialism" are not synonyms for "the government is doing things I disagree with."
  - hallqv 3y ago
    As I stated above what I disagree is a system where legislation is used for other purposes than 1) protecting citizens from harm 2) combating anti-competitive practices by incumbent businesses. The legislation in question clearly falls outside these two categories.
    - stodor89 3y ago
      Wait what? Being able to repair my stuff is obviously 1) protecting me from harm and 2) combating anti-competitive practices.