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Grok by XAI – Elon Musk

13 points by marcoslozada 3y ago

jaimex2 3y ago
This is pretty huge considering what it will have behind it. Namely a lot of Tesla's proprietary AI hardware and software. Consider how good Elon is at pulling in talent and reducing complexity. Very exciting stuff.
superchroma 3y ago
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- marcoslozada 3y ago
  You dislike that? Would love to know more. Appreciate
  - enavari 3y ago
    Not op but you really don't know? Elon musk is a controversial figure and has only gotten more "strange" or annoying the past couple years.
  - DougN7 3y ago
    In my opinion, Musk used to have the golden touch. But his Twitter takeover and its aftermath shows he has lost it. And it looks like he’s becoming more and more like Howard Hughes in his later life in that his oddness and eccentricities seem to keep increasing. We’ll see if that happens or not.
failedartifact 3y ago
Musk was sharing some comments on twitter, praising its sarcasm. But isn't this type of trickery what AI protections should guard against?
Amorymeltzer 3y ago
Elon says[1] the AI assistant will be part of X premium for $16/month. More importantly: >Grok is an AI modeled after the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, so intended to answer almost anything and, far harder, even suggest what questions to ask! I'm a big fan of both, but using a Robert Heinlein word to name something you say is based on a Douglas Adams idea is weird. 1: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720839331365929290 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720839331365929290
- gcr 3y ago
  Hallucinating what questions to ask is far easier than answering correctly and definitively in my opinion.
- lowmagnet 3y ago
  He's that guy in your group who makes references to things he doesn't actually understand. This is the same guy that said the Cybertruck is what "Bladerunner" would drive. There is no such character named Bladerunner, his name is Deckard.
  - workingdog 3y ago
    Ahem..his name is Billy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bladerunner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bladerunner
- bitshiftfaced 3y ago
  > I'm a big fan of both, but using a Robert Heinlein word to name something you say is based on a Douglas Adams idea is weird. This doesn't have anything to do with your point. It's just that I see people call things "weird" all the time on this forum. The way you've framed it comes off as a criticism, but is something being weird a bad thing?
  - LightBug1 3y ago
    If it doesn't make sense, then ... yes.
imjonse 3y ago
No paper and not open source (yet?). I wonder how this is compatible with the lofty goals of furthering research and 'maximally benefit all of humanity'.
gcr 3y ago
There’s no details here about training, evaluation, reproducibility or even architecture. OpenAI’s GPT4 tech report was a marketing press release in disguise; I felt it represented a huge step down for the field in terms of academic rigour. But this model card epitomizes the end conclusion of LLM commoditization: no attempt to quantify limitations or weaknesses, portraying model biases and hateful/hallucinatory output as a feature rather than a bug, all wrapped up in breathless language of wanting to “maximally benefit humanity” while hiding the model behind a secretive waitlist or a $16 Twitter premium subscription plan. What a boring release, to be honest.
motohagiography 3y ago
The idea of optimizing an AI product to use humour and sarcasm is actually very clever because a lot of people mistake sarcasm for intelligence. But wryness aside, having it present itself to the user up front as potentially misleading, via humour, is probably the best way to operate over human minds anyway. Wit engages your own wit and critical faculties. If you are funnier than this AI, you are exercising your intelligence. Edward Tufte's old "the cognitive style of powerpoint" essay was about how the tech Microsoft used created generations of drones who thought in cliches and bullet points, whereas if Grok can actually challenge people via wit, we could actually get some enhancing effects from it. Psyched for this anyway. Congrats.
diimdeep 3y ago
Is it flagged by mistake ?
- ilaksh 3y ago
  It's flagged for political reasons.
  - marcoslozada 3y ago
    What it means?
7e 3y ago
A high schooler could put together a more credible model card that this one.
Yusefmosiah 3y ago
Seems to be GPT-3.5 level. Not sure why anyone would pay for that given ChatGPT has a free plan, Claude, Bard, and the whole world of open source models.

13 points by marcoslozada 3y ago

This is pretty huge considering what it will have behind it. Namely a lot of Tesla's proprietary AI hardware and software. Consider how good Elon is at pulling in talent and reducing complexity. Very exciting stuff.

superchroma 3y ago

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marcoslozada 3y ago
You dislike that? Would love to know more. Appreciate
- enavari 3y ago
  Not op but you really don't know? Elon musk is a controversial figure and has only gotten more "strange" or annoying the past couple years.
- DougN7 3y ago
  In my opinion, Musk used to have the golden touch. But his Twitter takeover and its aftermath shows he has lost it. And it looks like he’s becoming more and more like Howard Hughes in his later life in that his oddness and eccentricities seem to keep increasing. We’ll see if that happens or not.

failedartifact 3y ago

Musk was sharing some comments on twitter, praising its sarcasm. But isn't this type of trickery what AI protections should guard against?

Amorymeltzer 3y ago

Elon says[1] the AI assistant will be part of X premium for $16/month. More importantly: >Grok is an AI modeled after the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, so intended to answer almost anything and, far harder, even suggest what questions to ask! I'm a big fan of both, but using a Robert Heinlein word to name something you say is based on a Douglas Adams idea is weird. 1: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720839331365929290 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720839331365929290

gcr 3y ago
Hallucinating what questions to ask is far easier than answering correctly and definitively in my opinion.
lowmagnet 3y ago
He's that guy in your group who makes references to things he doesn't actually understand. This is the same guy that said the Cybertruck is what "Bladerunner" would drive. There is no such character named Bladerunner, his name is Deckard.
- workingdog 3y ago
  Ahem..his name is Billy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bladerunner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bladerunner
bitshiftfaced 3y ago
> I'm a big fan of both, but using a Robert Heinlein word to name something you say is based on a Douglas Adams idea is weird. This doesn't have anything to do with your point. It's just that I see people call things "weird" all the time on this forum. The way you've framed it comes off as a criticism, but is something being weird a bad thing?
- LightBug1 3y ago
  If it doesn't make sense, then ... yes.

imjonse 3y ago

No paper and not open source (yet?). I wonder how this is compatible with the lofty goals of furthering research and 'maximally benefit all of humanity'.

gcr 3y ago

There’s no details here about training, evaluation, reproducibility or even architecture. OpenAI’s GPT4 tech report was a marketing press release in disguise; I felt it represented a huge step down for the field in terms of academic rigour. But this model card epitomizes the end conclusion of LLM commoditization: no attempt to quantify limitations or weaknesses, portraying model biases and hateful/hallucinatory output as a feature rather than a bug, all wrapped up in breathless language of wanting to “maximally benefit humanity” while hiding the model behind a secretive waitlist or a $16 Twitter premium subscription plan. What a boring release, to be honest.

motohagiography 3y ago

The idea of optimizing an AI product to use humour and sarcasm is actually very clever because a lot of people mistake sarcasm for intelligence. But wryness aside, having it present itself to the user up front as potentially misleading, via humour, is probably the best way to operate over human minds anyway. Wit engages your own wit and critical faculties. If you are funnier than this AI, you are exercising your intelligence. Edward Tufte's old "the cognitive style of powerpoint" essay was about how the tech Microsoft used created generations of drones who thought in cliches and bullet points, whereas if Grok can actually challenge people via wit, we could actually get some enhancing effects from it. Psyched for this anyway. Congrats.

diimdeep 3y ago

Is it flagged by mistake ?

ilaksh 3y ago
It's flagged for political reasons.
- marcoslozada 3y ago
  What it means?

7e 3y ago

A high schooler could put together a more credible model card that this one.

Yusefmosiah 3y ago

Seems to be GPT-3.5 level. Not sure why anyone would pay for that given ChatGPT has a free plan, Claude, Bard, and the whole world of open source models.