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That study was done on early adolescents. How generalizable are those results to adult, white-collar workers?

by bmay 3y ago

lazide 3y ago
many adults have experienced the same. or say they have, in my experience. as to if it’s denial vs reality? good luck untangling the biases in any attempt to figure that out! ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ vs a world with a large segment of mental disorders basically resulting from someone having an existential need for something to not be broken (and no tools or time/resources to fix it).
- colechristensen 3y ago
  It’s a sort of placebo effect. Diagnosing someone can create or amplify the effects of the diagnosis.
  - kelseyfrog 3y ago
    Any treatment has iatrogenic potential, even therapy. The commonly accepted rate of iatrogenic harm from therapy is 5%[1]. The six listed mechanisms don't involve diagnosis. 1. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-of-psychiatry/article/iatrogenic-harm-from-psychological-therapies-time-to-move-on/1A4E606876C43FD9BAF6BE2F7ABC7756 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-...
polartx 3y ago
My purely anecdotal experience—my [then] wife began seeing a therapist to help with her seasonal depression. She didn’t work, and spent a lot of time on social media. Her therapist encouraged her to ‘choose you, put yourself first, etc’, this encouragement gave way to her early midlife crisis, infidelity, divorce, substance abuse, and her losing custody of our young children. Therapy can very helpful to many people. I also think therapy can be equally detrimental, (or more-so) to many people. Therapists are people doing a job. Some people are bad at their jobs. A patient implicitly trusting a therapist giving harmful advice can have far reaching, long lasting consequences.
- willcipriano 3y ago
  I had a similar experience. Things were bad before but therapy increased my wife's (now separated) bad behaviors and instilled her with a newfound confidence that doesn't really fit her life situation.
- colinng 3y ago
  It also led to MRR (Monthly Recurring Revenue) and playing God for the therapist. Edit: then again, don’t out the therapist. I don’t want anyone getting sued for libel. The world has enough problems.

That study was done on early adolescents. How generalizable are those results to adult, white-collar workers?

by bmay 3y ago

That study was done on early adolescents. How generalizable are those results to adult, white-collar workers?

many adults have experienced the same. or say they have, in my experience. as to if it’s denial vs reality? good luck untangling the biases in any attempt to figure that out! ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ vs a world with a large segment of mental disorders basically resulting from someone having an existential need for something to not be broken (and no tools or time/resources to fix it).

colechristensen 3y ago
It’s a sort of placebo effect. Diagnosing someone can create or amplify the effects of the diagnosis.
- kelseyfrog 3y ago
  Any treatment has iatrogenic potential, even therapy. The commonly accepted rate of iatrogenic harm from therapy is 5%[1]. The six listed mechanisms don't involve diagnosis. 1. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-of-psychiatry/article/iatrogenic-harm-from-psychological-therapies-time-to-move-on/1A4E606876C43FD9BAF6BE2F7ABC7756 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-...

polartx 3y ago

My purely anecdotal experience—my [then] wife began seeing a therapist to help with her seasonal depression. She didn’t work, and spent a lot of time on social media. Her therapist encouraged her to ‘choose you, put yourself first, etc’, this encouragement gave way to her early midlife crisis, infidelity, divorce, substance abuse, and her losing custody of our young children. Therapy can very helpful to many people. I also think therapy can be equally detrimental, (or more-so) to many people. Therapists are people doing a job. Some people are bad at their jobs. A patient implicitly trusting a therapist giving harmful advice can have far reaching, long lasting consequences.

willcipriano 3y ago
I had a similar experience. Things were bad before but therapy increased my wife's (now separated) bad behaviors and instilled her with a newfound confidence that doesn't really fit her life situation.
colinng 3y ago
It also led to MRR (Monthly Recurring Revenue) and playing God for the therapist. Edit: then again, don’t out the therapist. I don’t want anyone getting sued for libel. The world has enough problems.