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Live a long boring life and create lots of value for shareholders
by luminouslow 3y ago
Live a long boring life and create lots of value for shareholders
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- romanovcode 3y agoIndeed, don't drink beer and wine. Don't eat meat, just eat bugs instead! Don't eat white rice, oh wait, don't eat brown rice instead! Don't eat gluten! Don't eat dairy because it was not suppose to be this way after infancy. Jesus, where is the line. I'm tired of other people to tell me what to eat and drink on a weekly basis.
- Ma8ee 3y agoAre you seriously complaining that some academics are advising you about the health consequences of some habits, while you constantly are bombarded by commercials and other media trying to influence what you eat and drink?
- waihtis 3y agopolicy is forced on you, advertisements make suggestions. one is communism, the other is free market. if you value individual freedom, you should care about these things.
- Ma8ee 3y agoUh, what exactly is forced upon you in this case?
- esskay 3y agoWheres the policy saying you cant drink, cant eat bread, cant eat meat, cant smoke? A study being published saying "this this isn't great for you" is not at all remotely communism.
- waihtis 3y agolook at something like cigarettes and notice how policy tends to translate into "ban" over enough time
- dgan 3y ago«Forcing a policy» is not communism.
- xyproto 3y agoYeah, what's next, to tell people to stop smoking, remove asbestos from houses and not let kids play with mercury any more? /s
- bowsamic 3y agoWhy are you comparing bread to asbestos? Also yes people should be allowed to smoke
- ryan_lane 3y ago> Also yes people should be allowed to smoke Yes, assuming that I never have to inhale any of your smoke. Even outdoors. I don't care what you do to your body, but I do care what you do to mine.
- XorNot 3y agoBread is an absolutely massive number of calories for what it is. In a pastrami sandwich, about 50% of the calories will be from the bread alone. People can eat bread, but when they wonder why it's hard to lose weight they tend to ignore this unconsidered contributor (conversely if you're working in a field or at hard labour job, breads a pretty great, compact calorie source).
- romanovcode 3y ago> but when they wonder why it's hard to lose weight Dude but it's their problem. You can get heroin and crack on the streets right now. I do not want things to be banned just because some dumbass is doing it wrong. Literally reminds me of the anti-cannabis activist who's biggest argument was that "I smoked some weed, went home and they said my relative died and I laughed. Now I think nobody should ever use cannabis and it should be banned completely."
- XorNot 3y agoDude literally no one is calling for a bread or alcohol ban in this thread. You have been complaining about a study which suggested that people who care about their health might want to re-evaluate their risk appetite in light of updated data.
- jmopp 3y agoAll bodies are different: some people react well to a vegan diet, others get so broken by the FODMAPs in plant-based proteins that they can only eat meat and greens. When you interpret dietary advice not as "this is what you should eat and drink" but instead as "this worked for me; it might work for you too" it brings a whole lot more inner peace. The basic tried-and-tested ground rules are pretty simple: cover your nutritional needs, enjoy vices sparingly. How that looks specifically is entirely dependent on your own body and mind. Maybe the minor physical-health hit from social alcohol consumption is offset by the mental-health gains from socialising with friends.
- conductr 3y agoAs a non-drinker, it’s bizarre that there is this rather prominent belief from others that life would be insufferable without alcohol.
- mnw21cam 3y agoI agree. I totally fail to see the attraction of alcoholic drinks. They're grown-up drinks, which means that they taste vile and make you feel sick.
- conductr 3y agoWell, I definitely see the attraction. What I don’t get is the projection. Just because you think your life would be miserable/boring without alcohol, doesn’t mean my actual life without alcohol is miserable/boring. To me, I find people that lean into this projection don’t even realize that their life is already miserable and the drink is what makes things tenable
- mvdtnz 3y agoMy experience is that non-drinkers are incredibly boring people.
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- sw104 3y agoMy experience is that drinkers are incredibly boring people.
- Mashimo 3y agoMy experience is that boring people are not corelated to their alcohol consumption. I know people who don't drink often, much who still party and are "fun" to be around. And I know people who are boring who don't mind a drink.
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- chongli 3y agoWho says a life without (or even just with less) alcohol is boring? There’s millions of things to do besides drink. There’s thousands of hobbies and sports to enjoy. There’s vast areas of natural and cultural beauty to explore. There are countless cities and cultures to visit, cuisines to taste, music to enjoy. Seriously, people who think that drinking is the only thing to do are the boring ones.
- imp0cat 3y agoPeople obviously do not think that drinking is the only thing to do. But in your example, when exploring a far-away land, a few beers with the locals in some pub can greatly enhance the experience.
- lexandstuff 3y agoTrouble is, alcohol goes really well with a lot of those things.
- Tenoke 3y agoTo be fair most people can't visit countless cities weekly, can't visit or don't care for the nature you like, and the increased injury risk of many sports (compared to just cycling for cardio and doing resistance training) is probably as bad as the risks from moderate drinking.
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- Mashimo 3y ago> There’s millions of things to do besides drink. Drugs \o/
- romanovcode 3y agoAlcohol is a drug, literally. So is caffeine and nicotine.
- Terr_ 3y agoTranslation: "Don't be a cog in the giant capitalist machine, be an adventurous free-thinking rebel, by..." *checks notes* "By regularly buying goods from alcohol companies, and especially by making those purchases (and chronic low-level self-poisoning) a core part of your self-identity like a good little consumer!" Oh wait, was I not supposed to draw attention to that second part?
- subjectsigma 3y agoThere’s nothing inherently consumerist or capitalist about drinking alcohol. Making beer for your own consumption is safe, easy, and cheap, which is probably why it’s been drunk since before recorded history. Hard alcohol can be more difficult but entirely possible to do yourself
- XorNot 3y agoExcept this is not how the majority of the population experience or consume alcohol.
- subjectsigma 3y agoWhat is your point? The guy I was replying to was satirizing beer drinkers as consumerist cogs in the machine. I pointed out that of all the things to criticize someone for enjoying alcohol is probably one of the least corporate. If buying alcohol makes you a monopolist’s bitch then so does buying anything and everyone in the entire world is hopeless. It’s like claiming solar panels make you a slave to factory owners when they can be used, operated and repaired in a distributed manner. Sure, maybe, but like what a weird hill to die on?
- Terr_ 3y agoIt feels like you're completely ignoring the comment that started this all, which then throws your comparisons out of whack. Here's what it looks like to me. ______ 1 - Luminouslow: "Pfft, health shmelth, the corporations want us to be cowards who don't drink alcohol, and this is playing right into their hands!" 2 - Terr: "That's hypocritical nonsense. If anything, people like you--ones who treat regular alcohol as an important part of their identity and try to ostracize people who don't drink--are the real corporate sheep here." 3 - Subjectsigma: "Alcohol isn't always corporate, people can brew their own at home." 4 - Xornot: "That would be a very different situation than the world we're discussing right now." 5 - Subjectsigma: "But Terr started criticizing people who drink as consumer sheep, which is very unfair because they could have bought locally." 6 - Terr: "Dude, WTF, did you even see what I was replying to!? Where the guy suggested not buying anything was worse!? [Recursion error]
- mawadev 3y agoI understand this point of view and I used to share it, but I see it from the other side now: I used alcohol to cope with stress at work/life and when I stopped, the switch flipped and I saw how much I numbed myself to the pain that was necessary to change any of it. I basically grew a pair over 90 days. Now, none of people's manipulation or crocodile tears affect me. If you are stress- and anxiety-free, you don't have this problem and can afford it, but I highly recommend to people to quit drinking and doing drugs who recognize themselves in what I described.
- isoprophlex 3y agoHow much did you drink? I went from 2/day during my phd - clearly to cope with the stress - to 1/day to 3/week... I however really love the taste of good specialty beers and the meme of drinking a beer while cooking&eating food. Not sure if I want to cut down any further, I enjoy drinking too much. But investing any technique to increase anxiety resistance sounds worthwhile to me, otoh...
- cycomanic 3y agoFunny and there I thought the alcohol industry is a multi-billion dollar business creating lots of value for their shareholders (arguably externalizing the cost for general society). It's also quite telling that you consider not drinking a boring life, in my experience (obviously this is anecdotal) people who are not drinking are more active and are typically more open to try new things.
- Narrow2890 3y agoThe shareholders of Anheuser-Busch InBev thank you for your service.
- esskay 3y agoIf you're relying on drinking to live a fulfilling life something is very, very wrong. Your life shouldn't be dictated by drinking or not drinking.