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Interesting history, but people in Leuven call this city Leuven and not Louvain. No need to use the french term in a flemish city where almost no one speaks fre
by gpcr1949 3y ago
Interesting history, but people in Leuven call this city Leuven and not Louvain. No need to use the french term in a flemish city where almost no one speaks french as their first language. In fact, french language was the subject of some amount of political struggle in the 1960s, resulting in the founding of the french speaking university in "Louvain-la-Neuve", a planned city that was built in (french speaking) Wallonia for this purpose. You can read more about the politically important language discussion that occured in the 1960s here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_of_the_Catholic_University_of_Leuven https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_of_the_Catholic_Universi...
- VK538FY 3y agoDon't the English write Bâle instead of Basel sometimes? (An officially germaophone city.) It can be that English retains the French writing. Nothing wring with that.
- brnt 3y agoI think we learned from Kyiv that we should tape some care not to let third parties write some place's history for them. French imperialism used to be quite similar, after all.
- VK538FY 3y agoHuh?
- gpcr1949 3y agoWriting Basel as Bâle would be silly and non-standard too, yes. Maybe "wrong" is too strong of a classification. But for example, I wouldn't immediately recognize it as Basel in a headline. FWIW Leuven refers to itself in English as Leuven on their own website: https://www.leuven.be/en https://www.leuven.be/en Also somewhat interesting to me is that for some reason people think Belgium is mainly a French speaking country, but in fact there are actually more Dutch speakers than French speakers (56% vs 38% native speakers according to Eurostat in 2015) - I have the sense referring to Flemish cities by their French name reflects that
- VK538FY 3y agoHard to say! Switzerland and Belgium are both minority francophone countries, so it's hard to use the argument of numbers to justify a French spelling. Maybe because French was a diplomatic language. Maybe because of the Normand invasion.
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