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The federal government doesn't "hoard" land around areas where people would want to purchase a first home. The vast majority of crown land is not around any maj

The federal government doesn't "hoard" land around areas where people would want to purchase a first home. The vast majority of crown land is not around any major urban centers. Canadian tech workers make way above median income levels.

acover 3y ago
Are you sure? GDP per Capita is 71k cad vs a developer salary of 87k cad. Seems pretty average. https://www.glassdoor.ca/Salaries/toronto-software-developer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,7_IM976_KO8,26.htm https://www.glassdoor.ca/Salaries/toronto-software-developer...
- hotnfresh 3y ago
  GDP per capita isn’t the right figure to compare it to. You want median individual income, since median is what was under discussion.
  - acover 3y ago
    In Ontario the median hourly wage is $27 cad. It's not some huge difference. Probably on the level of other university graduates. For comparison US GDP per capita is 71k usd and San Francisco salaries are 172k usd. That's a big difference.
    - ako 3y ago
      San Francisco tech salaries are not representative for the entire US tech industry. And on top of that, San Francisco salaries drive up housing prices, so i'm not sure if working in SF results in a higher discretionary income.
      - acover 3y ago
        Toronto tech salaries are not representative for all of Ontario either. Bay area tech salaries are 3x gdp per capita. Toronto tech salaries are 1.2x gdp per capita. Funnily enough, the 3x higher salaries in San Francisco actually make it more affordable than working tech in Toronto. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&country2=United+States&city1=Toronto&city2=San+Francisco%2C+CA&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...
        FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        I just checked and in EU big cities like Munich, tech salaries are also around 1.0x-1.2x GPD per capita, making EU just as bad as Toronto. Man, the US is really in a league of its own for tech wages.
        Detrytus 3y ago
        Meanwhile, in Poland tech salaries are 3x-4x the GDP per capita, which is why many of software developers own more than one house/apartment.
        FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        What about the people who aren't devs?
        Detrytus 3y ago
        Well, if they live in a small town in some rural area they either inherit a house, or build their own, with substantial financial help from from their parents. If they live in a city they are screwed, unless they are lucky enough to get a really well-paying job.
- olddustytrail 3y ago
  GDP per capita has nothing to do with salaries. I believe average salary for Canada is $59300 so that puts dev salaries well above average.
ChumpGPT 3y ago
https://archive.ph/4xWtC https://archive.ph/4xWtC

acover 3y ago

Are you sure? GDP per Capita is 71k cad vs a developer salary of 87k cad. Seems pretty average. https://www.glassdoor.ca/Salaries/toronto-software-developer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,7_IM976_KO8,26.htm https://www.glassdoor.ca/Salaries/toronto-software-developer...

hotnfresh 3y ago
GDP per capita isn’t the right figure to compare it to. You want median individual income, since median is what was under discussion.
- acover 3y ago
  In Ontario the median hourly wage is $27 cad. It's not some huge difference. Probably on the level of other university graduates. For comparison US GDP per capita is 71k usd and San Francisco salaries are 172k usd. That's a big difference.
  - ako 3y ago
    San Francisco tech salaries are not representative for the entire US tech industry. And on top of that, San Francisco salaries drive up housing prices, so i'm not sure if working in SF results in a higher discretionary income.
    - acover 3y ago
      Toronto tech salaries are not representative for all of Ontario either. Bay area tech salaries are 3x gdp per capita. Toronto tech salaries are 1.2x gdp per capita. Funnily enough, the 3x higher salaries in San Francisco actually make it more affordable than working tech in Toronto. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&country2=United+States&city1=Toronto&city2=San+Francisco%2C+CA&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        I just checked and in EU big cities like Munich, tech salaries are also around 1.0x-1.2x GPD per capita, making EU just as bad as Toronto. Man, the US is really in a league of its own for tech wages.
        Detrytus 3y ago
        Meanwhile, in Poland tech salaries are 3x-4x the GDP per capita, which is why many of software developers own more than one house/apartment.
        FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        What about the people who aren't devs?
        Detrytus 3y ago
        Well, if they live in a small town in some rural area they either inherit a house, or build their own, with substantial financial help from from their parents. If they live in a city they are screwed, unless they are lucky enough to get a really well-paying job.
olddustytrail 3y ago
GDP per capita has nothing to do with salaries. I believe average salary for Canada is $59300 so that puts dev salaries well above average.

ChumpGPT 3y ago

https://archive.ph/4xWtC https://archive.ph/4xWtC