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As much as I dislike the intel/amd "two party" thing we have now, why AMD when intel is the devil we know? I realize performance and power and heat can be the

As much as I dislike the intel/amd "two party" thing we have now, why AMD when intel is the devil we know? I realize performance and power and heat can be the concern but ultimately we know how to cripple ME, while the PSP isn't really fully understood yet. System76 Serval WS - I ordered this and it arrives this week, however there is at least one AMD laptop they offer, again, I believe, with Coreboot and OpenEC.

dangus 3y ago
The answer to “why AMD” is that you get better performance (especially graphics) for the money and better mobile power efficiency than Intel at present.
- ilikenwf 3y ago
  Makes perfect sense for your situation. In my case it is more...portable power, without a lot of concern on efficiency because I'm always plugged in. I guess it depends on priorities. I prefer first to be as assured as I can that despite my 0 trust model, my machine isn't factory backdoored, or at least, is less factory backdoored than everyone else's machine.
  - dangus 3y ago
    Yeah, no, I can’t do the paranoid computing thing. That’s not for me.
_d3Xt3r_ 3y ago
- I trust AMD more than Intel, and the PSP doesn't rank high on my threat model. It is a concern, but not enough for me to avoid it. Perfectly understandable if it's a big concern for you though. - Also, Intel iGPUs are still pretty bad at gaming, at least compared to AMD's equivalents. - System76 did not (and still does not) offer a compact AMD laptop, they only offer a 15" one. I needed 14" or smaller for better portability and weight (I'm one of those people who actually uses a laptop on their lap).
- ilikenwf 3y ago
  Your model makes sense, at least for situations like yours... I got the serval because it includes a 4070 8gb...so graphics and battery life aren't really a concern to me...I usually am plugged in. I also trust AMD more but they haven't been very forthcoming on the PSP.
skrtskrt 3y ago
Intel integrated graphics are terrible, so if you're buying a smaller laptop which will usually not have a dedicated graphics card, it's gonna poop itself if you're on a video call while some basic code compilation is happening.

dangus 3y ago

The answer to “why AMD” is that you get better performance (especially graphics) for the money and better mobile power efficiency than Intel at present.

ilikenwf 3y ago
Makes perfect sense for your situation. In my case it is more...portable power, without a lot of concern on efficiency because I'm always plugged in. I guess it depends on priorities. I prefer first to be as assured as I can that despite my 0 trust model, my machine isn't factory backdoored, or at least, is less factory backdoored than everyone else's machine.
- dangus 3y ago
  Yeah, no, I can’t do the paranoid computing thing. That’s not for me.

_d3Xt3r_ 3y ago

- I trust AMD more than Intel, and the PSP doesn't rank high on my threat model. It is a concern, but not enough for me to avoid it. Perfectly understandable if it's a big concern for you though. - Also, Intel iGPUs are still pretty bad at gaming, at least compared to AMD's equivalents. - System76 did not (and still does not) offer a compact AMD laptop, they only offer a 15" one. I needed 14" or smaller for better portability and weight (I'm one of those people who actually uses a laptop on their lap).

ilikenwf 3y ago
Your model makes sense, at least for situations like yours... I got the serval because it includes a 4070 8gb...so graphics and battery life aren't really a concern to me...I usually am plugged in. I also trust AMD more but they haven't been very forthcoming on the PSP.

skrtskrt 3y ago

Intel integrated graphics are terrible, so if you're buying a smaller laptop which will usually not have a dedicated graphics card, it's gonna poop itself if you're on a video call while some basic code compilation is happening.