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Unions have these things that you might of heard of... elections, where you can elect your leadership. How much democracy is for employees in a corporation?

kazen44 3y ago
this depends on the country actually. A lot of countries have work's council[0] enshrined into law. Which actually means you have some form of democratic control over what a company wants to do. i am still bewildered the US has nothing of the sort... in any kind of way. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_council https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_council
changoplatanero 3y ago
In the union that I was represented by you had to pay extra money to be a voting member. So for people like me that didn't like the union they still forcibly took some of my money but without any chance for me to vote on how they spent it.
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- tchaffee 3y ago
  What was the "forcibly" part?
  - changoplatanero 3y ago
    No possible way to work for that employer and opt out of the fees. It was illegal for me to make an employment contract with my employer without them getting a cut.
    - tchaffee 3y ago
      And who forced you to work for that employer?
zdragnar 3y ago
Unions are sticky. Once you let them in, you will have a very hard time decertifying them if you feel you are not being represented well. https://freebeacon.com/policy/labor-leaders-say-illinois-firefighters-cant-vote-to-leave-union/ https://freebeacon.com/policy/labor-leaders-say-illinois-fir... https://www.mackinac.org/26962 https://www.mackinac.org/26962 https://www.americanexperiment.org/the-seiu-hopes-to-plunder-the-families-of-disabled-people/ https://www.americanexperiment.org/the-seiu-hopes-to-plunder... https://leadinghomecare.com/blog/2014/05/01/michigan-home-health-aides-leave-seiu-state-reversed-underhanded-scheme/ https://leadinghomecare.com/blog/2014/05/01/michigan-home-he...

kazen44 3y ago

this depends on the country actually. A lot of countries have work's council[0] enshrined into law. Which actually means you have some form of democratic control over what a company wants to do. i am still bewildered the US has nothing of the sort... in any kind of way. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_council https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_council

changoplatanero 3y ago

In the union that I was represented by you had to pay extra money to be a voting member. So for people like me that didn't like the union they still forcibly took some of my money but without any chance for me to vote on how they spent it.

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tchaffee 3y ago
What was the "forcibly" part?
- changoplatanero 3y ago
  No possible way to work for that employer and opt out of the fees. It was illegal for me to make an employment contract with my employer without them getting a cut.
  - tchaffee 3y ago
    And who forced you to work for that employer?

zdragnar 3y ago

Unions are sticky. Once you let them in, you will have a very hard time decertifying them if you feel you are not being represented well. https://freebeacon.com/policy/labor-leaders-say-illinois-firefighters-cant-vote-to-leave-union/ https://freebeacon.com/policy/labor-leaders-say-illinois-fir... https://www.mackinac.org/26962 https://www.mackinac.org/26962 https://www.americanexperiment.org/the-seiu-hopes-to-plunder-the-families-of-disabled-people/ https://www.americanexperiment.org/the-seiu-hopes-to-plunder... https://leadinghomecare.com/blog/2014/05/01/michigan-home-health-aides-leave-seiu-state-reversed-underhanded-scheme/ https://leadinghomecare.com/blog/2014/05/01/michigan-home-he...