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Elon’s arguably the greatest founder in history. Either him, or JP Morgan. He doesn’t need to be more like a physician, physicians need to be more like him.

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mecsred 3y ago
Physicians don't study physics, they have medical degrees. You're thinking of physicists.
mrguyorama 3y ago
Ah yes, person is great because they started off with resources other people don't, and were able to leverage those resources to get even more resources. Truly, we should all emulate that. Oh, most people don't start off rich? Oh what a shame. Elon bought Tesla, Elon is only vaguely a part of SpaceX, and every single other venture he has been involved with has either gone nowhere, been a scam/grift/lie (boring company, hyperloop, neurolink though it shouldn't be judged just yet) or even classic nepotism with Solar roofing. Elon is such a good businessman, which is why he bought Twitter at the peak of it's valuation, continually flakes on all it's bills, publicly admits to losing half of that peak value, saddled it with a billion dollar a year debt, erased any brand recognition it might have to replace it with a stupid domain name he has been obsessed with for twenty years, lost half of the advertising revenue, blocked it off from public access, fired anyone who isn't a sycophant, and repeats really dumb conspiracy theories about fucking everything.
- Chris2048 3y ago
  > Oh, most people don't start off rich? How rich did Elon start off?
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    Other than having fairly wealthy parents and family? His payoff from paypal is not something most people will have access to. The dot com boom was basically a lottery.
    - qwytw 3y ago
      Before Paypal he sold a rudimentary yellow pages search engine to Compaq for $305 million so that they could merge it into their search engine. Compaq managed to sell AltaVista for $2.3 billion 6 months later and not long before the crash so maybe it wasn't the stupidest move on their side.
    - Chris2048 3y ago
      Many people are "fairly wealthy", yet don't end up as billionaires e.g. many doctors, lawyers or SWEs. Elon family riches is uncertain: https://futurism.com/elon-musk-dad-emerald-mine https://futurism.com/elon-musk-dad-emerald-mine
    - googlryas 3y ago
      How wealthy were his parents and family? How many other people have parents and family that wealthy, or wealthier? How many of them end up being $100+ billionaires?
  - qwytw 3y ago
    To be fair he made most of his initial wealth during the dot.com psychosis... Not saying he isn't one of the greatest businessmen in history (well... assuming he's running Twitter to the ground for shits & giggles anyway) but selling a company for hundreds of millions back in those days does not necessarily was not necessarily that different from winning the lottery (being at the right time and the right place was enough).
    - wolverine876 3y ago
      > To be fair he made most of his initial wealth during the dot.com psychosis... And now make money in another, partly self-created psychosis
- firebat45 3y ago
  There are tons of people that start off rich and do nothing with it. There are tons of people who start poor and go nowhere with that, or start poor and become rich, and still do nothing with it. Yes, he was fortunate to be born above an arbitrary rich/poor line that many other people weren't. How about instead of judging him based on something he had no control over (the irony in that judgement is palpable), judge him for what he has done, regardless of where he started from. I'm not at all a Musk fanboy but he is undeniably a "great" person. He's got ~several~ achievements that would make him a great person, which reinforces the point even more.
qwytw 3y ago
> physicians need to be more like him. What does being a founder have to do with being a doctor? Or a physicist for that matter?

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mecsred 3y ago

Physicians don't study physics, they have medical degrees. You're thinking of physicists.

mrguyorama 3y ago

Ah yes, person is great because they started off with resources other people don't, and were able to leverage those resources to get even more resources. Truly, we should all emulate that. Oh, most people don't start off rich? Oh what a shame. Elon bought Tesla, Elon is only vaguely a part of SpaceX, and every single other venture he has been involved with has either gone nowhere, been a scam/grift/lie (boring company, hyperloop, neurolink though it shouldn't be judged just yet) or even classic nepotism with Solar roofing. Elon is such a good businessman, which is why he bought Twitter at the peak of it's valuation, continually flakes on all it's bills, publicly admits to losing half of that peak value, saddled it with a billion dollar a year debt, erased any brand recognition it might have to replace it with a stupid domain name he has been obsessed with for twenty years, lost half of the advertising revenue, blocked it off from public access, fired anyone who isn't a sycophant, and repeats really dumb conspiracy theories about fucking everything.

Chris2048 3y ago
> Oh, most people don't start off rich? How rich did Elon start off?
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  Other than having fairly wealthy parents and family? His payoff from paypal is not something most people will have access to. The dot com boom was basically a lottery.
  - qwytw 3y ago
    Before Paypal he sold a rudimentary yellow pages search engine to Compaq for $305 million so that they could merge it into their search engine. Compaq managed to sell AltaVista for $2.3 billion 6 months later and not long before the crash so maybe it wasn't the stupidest move on their side.
  - Chris2048 3y ago
    Many people are "fairly wealthy", yet don't end up as billionaires e.g. many doctors, lawyers or SWEs. Elon family riches is uncertain: https://futurism.com/elon-musk-dad-emerald-mine https://futurism.com/elon-musk-dad-emerald-mine
  - googlryas 3y ago
    How wealthy were his parents and family? How many other people have parents and family that wealthy, or wealthier? How many of them end up being $100+ billionaires?
- qwytw 3y ago
  To be fair he made most of his initial wealth during the dot.com psychosis... Not saying he isn't one of the greatest businessmen in history (well... assuming he's running Twitter to the ground for shits & giggles anyway) but selling a company for hundreds of millions back in those days does not necessarily was not necessarily that different from winning the lottery (being at the right time and the right place was enough).
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    > To be fair he made most of his initial wealth during the dot.com psychosis... And now make money in another, partly self-created psychosis
firebat45 3y ago
There are tons of people that start off rich and do nothing with it. There are tons of people who start poor and go nowhere with that, or start poor and become rich, and still do nothing with it. Yes, he was fortunate to be born above an arbitrary rich/poor line that many other people weren't. How about instead of judging him based on something he had no control over (the irony in that judgement is palpable), judge him for what he has done, regardless of where he started from. I'm not at all a Musk fanboy but he is undeniably a "great" person. He's got ~several~ achievements that would make him a great person, which reinforces the point even more.

qwytw 3y ago

> physicians need to be more like him. What does being a founder have to do with being a doctor? Or a physicist for that matter?