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Can you say a little bit about the possible risks from hot silicon being in contact with the water? I have not heard of this before.

by jes 3y ago

dealuromanet 3y ago
Plastics leeching toxic chemicals/compounds into food and water, especially when being heated, is a known thing. It's especially bad for the endocrine system. The disruption to the hormonal balance is noticeably affecting people.
- lumb63 3y ago
  I was under the impression that silicon-based substances were not plastic.
  - dealuromanet 3y ago
    Parent probably intended to say silicone, which is a plastic polymer. Silicone rings are commonly used even in stainless steel kettles or glass bottles for sealing the cap or lid.
    - lumb63 3y ago
      In case anyone else also meant silicone and thought it was not a plastic, some research turned this up: https://lifewithoutplastic.com/silicone/ https://lifewithoutplastic.com/silicone/
      - sarchertech 3y ago
        "Technically, silicone could be considered part of the rubber family. But, if you define plastics widely, as we do, silicone is something of a hybrid between a synthetic rubber and a synthetic plastic polymer. Silicone can be used to make malleable rubber-like items, hard resins, and spreadable fluids. We treat silicone as a plastic like any other, given that it has many plastic-like properties: flexibility, malleability, clarity, temperature resistance, water resistance." It's a little misleading to just call silicone plastic with no disclaimers. That site is also called "life without plastic", so I'm not sure it's the most neutral source.
  - anon84873628 3y ago
    Strictly speaking, "plastic" simply refers to the physical property of "plasticity". Though it's also used as a general term for "all polymers", which would therefore include silicone (polysiloxane) too. However people also use "plastic" to mean "organic polymers" specifically, thus drawing a distinction between plastics and silicone. I get the sense that people on the internet believe silicone to be more safe (e.g. for sous vide cooking or baby products) for whatever reason. Maybe because it is more chemically stable or decomposes to sand or whatever. But really you can't draw many conclusions about any synthetic material unless there has been thorough research. A given polymer species can have very different properties depending on the additives used, and those can be the most dangerous to health. And the same material between different manufacturers could have different chemistry and health risks. It's a big complicated world...
ycombinete 3y ago
There’s some evidence that silicone-rubber produces micro plastics when in contact with steam: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34764453/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34764453/

Can you say a little bit about the possible risks from hot silicon being in contact with the water? I have not heard of this before.

by jes 3y ago

Can you say a little bit about the possible risks from hot silicon being in contact with the water? I have not heard of this before.

dealuromanet 3y ago

Plastics leeching toxic chemicals/compounds into food and water, especially when being heated, is a known thing. It's especially bad for the endocrine system. The disruption to the hormonal balance is noticeably affecting people.

lumb63 3y ago
I was under the impression that silicon-based substances were not plastic.
- dealuromanet 3y ago
  Parent probably intended to say silicone, which is a plastic polymer. Silicone rings are commonly used even in stainless steel kettles or glass bottles for sealing the cap or lid.
  - lumb63 3y ago
    In case anyone else also meant silicone and thought it was not a plastic, some research turned this up: https://lifewithoutplastic.com/silicone/ https://lifewithoutplastic.com/silicone/
    - sarchertech 3y ago
      "Technically, silicone could be considered part of the rubber family. But, if you define plastics widely, as we do, silicone is something of a hybrid between a synthetic rubber and a synthetic plastic polymer. Silicone can be used to make malleable rubber-like items, hard resins, and spreadable fluids. We treat silicone as a plastic like any other, given that it has many plastic-like properties: flexibility, malleability, clarity, temperature resistance, water resistance." It's a little misleading to just call silicone plastic with no disclaimers. That site is also called "life without plastic", so I'm not sure it's the most neutral source.
- anon84873628 3y ago
  Strictly speaking, "plastic" simply refers to the physical property of "plasticity". Though it's also used as a general term for "all polymers", which would therefore include silicone (polysiloxane) too. However people also use "plastic" to mean "organic polymers" specifically, thus drawing a distinction between plastics and silicone. I get the sense that people on the internet believe silicone to be more safe (e.g. for sous vide cooking or baby products) for whatever reason. Maybe because it is more chemically stable or decomposes to sand or whatever. But really you can't draw many conclusions about any synthetic material unless there has been thorough research. A given polymer species can have very different properties depending on the additives used, and those can be the most dangerous to health. And the same material between different manufacturers could have different chemistry and health risks. It's a big complicated world...

ycombinete 3y ago

There’s some evidence that silicone-rubber produces micro plastics when in contact with steam: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34764453/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34764453/