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> I actually think it's the opposite, I always see Americans getting really snarky about Europe, I could go back and find plenty of examples but I have better t

> I actually think it's the opposite, I always see Americans getting really snarky about Europe, I could go back and find plenty of examples but I have better things to do. I'm responding to a (one of the many) cases of people being strangely upset and irrational about a simple fact about the US doing better in this one metric recently. There is no "opposite" about it, I never said it does not happen the other way around, I'm questioning why it is happening this way around in this thread. And again that is making people upset and bringing up other unrelated things, which is quite ironic really. > Personally I think average Americans have a hard time imaging a world where there is more to life than money. Personally I think it's sad that so many "educated and enlightened" people are okay with making vile accusations and generalizations about others they know nothing about. I know a bunch of Americans and almost all are warm, friendly, generous. Some very driven, very few who struck me as being all about money. I feel sad that many have been to feel ashamed of themselves by this kind of casual bullying. > Ultimately whenever I see these "murica" centric posts, I remember them flying in emergency medical supplies from China and everybody being upset about how the worlds greatest super power didn't have enough supplies for their own medical staff. I don't quite understand what you're getting at. You're upset by the fact that the US economy measured by GDP grew much faster than the EU recently, but you take comfort from the fact that China manufactures a lot of things that other countries buy such as medical equipment and there were shortages of various goods during Covid. I don't know what to make of that but I'm sure there's some interesting psychology behind it.

ChatGTP 3y ago
I'm responding to a (one of the many) cases of people being strangely upset and irrational about a simple fact about the US doing better in this one metric recently. There is no "opposite" about it, I never said it does not happen the other way around, I'm questioning why it is happening this way around in this thread. And again that is making people upset and bringing up other unrelated things, which is quite ironic really. If it happens both ways then it doesn't matter why, it's a kind of passive aggressive question then? You know that many people don't like America and it's way of operating, which IMO is about maximizing profits and throwing people under the bus to do so. No great national doesn't offer world class free healthcare, sorry. But that is the challenge of our time and we in the USA have failed. We have also failed, very ,very hard leading the world through climate change, so we're just a bunch of rich people with no leadership strength now. Personally I think it's sad that so many "educated and enlightened" people are okay with making vile accusations and generalizations about others they know nothing about. Regardless of any of your accusations, being that I'm some kind of generalizing monster, there is no place on earth that worships money like the USA. Sorry but that is just how it is. I've never experienced anything quite like it. Money is the religion. That's why we're having a GDP party. I know a bunch of Americans and almost all are warm, friendly, generous. Some very driven, very few who struck me as being all about money. I feel sad that many have been to feel ashamed of themselves by this kind of casual bullying. So do I, but I guess you're also generalizing that most Americans are lovely, because I know many that aren't. Saying this, Americans aren't any nicer per-capita than anywhere else in the world. There are nice people everywhere and there are dicks everywhere. The problem with America is it's politics and the access lobbyists have to politicians. I think Americans are probably too nice and too gullible to see the situation improved. Lobbying is a fairly unique problem in the US which causes things like mass shootings at schools to happen. The NRA makes sure everyone has guns (for example). I don't quite understand what you're getting at. You're upset by the fact that the US economy measured by GDP grew much faster than the EU recently, but you take comfort from the fact that China manufactures a lot of things that other countries buy such as medical equipment and there were shortages of various goods during Covid. I don't know what to make of that but I'm sure there's some interesting psychology behind it. Again, you're making accusations now. I don't take comfort in it, but I am saying it's important to be humble. I think boasting is a major character floor and again, had China decided not to send supplies, America would've been quite screwed. So yeah, let's be humble no matter how big our GDP cock is.
- throwawaylinux 3y ago
  > If it happens both ways then it doesn't matter why, Wrong. [snip bitterness] While we're dispensing with unsolicited advice about what is and is not important in how we think, you can just choose to not be upset by this stuff. The fact is here that lots of people are getting irrationally upset by the this GDP story. You can make peace with that and just move on without having to start bashing America or Americans. Ranting about how you think the average American has a hard time imagining more to life than money and things like that is just deeply weird. Fascinating though, so feel free not to take my advice and continue with it.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    Whatever buddy
    - throwawaylinux 3y ago
      That's the spirit. And you're welcome, you'll find that you feel much better when not upsetting yourself about things like this.

ChatGTP 3y ago

I'm responding to a (one of the many) cases of people being strangely upset and irrational about a simple fact about the US doing better in this one metric recently. There is no "opposite" about it, I never said it does not happen the other way around, I'm questioning why it is happening this way around in this thread. And again that is making people upset and bringing up other unrelated things, which is quite ironic really. If it happens both ways then it doesn't matter why, it's a kind of passive aggressive question then? You know that many people don't like America and it's way of operating, which IMO is about maximizing profits and throwing people under the bus to do so. No great national doesn't offer world class free healthcare, sorry. But that is the challenge of our time and we in the USA have failed. We have also failed, very ,very hard leading the world through climate change, so we're just a bunch of rich people with no leadership strength now. Personally I think it's sad that so many "educated and enlightened" people are okay with making vile accusations and generalizations about others they know nothing about. Regardless of any of your accusations, being that I'm some kind of generalizing monster, there is no place on earth that worships money like the USA. Sorry but that is just how it is. I've never experienced anything quite like it. Money is the religion. That's why we're having a GDP party. I know a bunch of Americans and almost all are warm, friendly, generous. Some very driven, very few who struck me as being all about money. I feel sad that many have been to feel ashamed of themselves by this kind of casual bullying. So do I, but I guess you're also generalizing that most Americans are lovely, because I know many that aren't. Saying this, Americans aren't any nicer per-capita than anywhere else in the world. There are nice people everywhere and there are dicks everywhere. The problem with America is it's politics and the access lobbyists have to politicians. I think Americans are probably too nice and too gullible to see the situation improved. Lobbying is a fairly unique problem in the US which causes things like mass shootings at schools to happen. The NRA makes sure everyone has guns (for example). I don't quite understand what you're getting at. You're upset by the fact that the US economy measured by GDP grew much faster than the EU recently, but you take comfort from the fact that China manufactures a lot of things that other countries buy such as medical equipment and there were shortages of various goods during Covid. I don't know what to make of that but I'm sure there's some interesting psychology behind it. Again, you're making accusations now. I don't take comfort in it, but I am saying it's important to be humble. I think boasting is a major character floor and again, had China decided not to send supplies, America would've been quite screwed. So yeah, let's be humble no matter how big our GDP cock is.

throwawaylinux 3y ago
> If it happens both ways then it doesn't matter why, Wrong. [snip bitterness] While we're dispensing with unsolicited advice about what is and is not important in how we think, you can just choose to not be upset by this stuff. The fact is here that lots of people are getting irrationally upset by the this GDP story. You can make peace with that and just move on without having to start bashing America or Americans. Ranting about how you think the average American has a hard time imagining more to life than money and things like that is just deeply weird. Fascinating though, so feel free not to take my advice and continue with it.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  Whatever buddy
  - throwawaylinux 3y ago
    That's the spirit. And you're welcome, you'll find that you feel much better when not upsetting yourself about things like this.