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Yes but the original founders did that. Zuckerberg took it from them and immediately lied about data sharing, there's a reason why the founders left in disgust

avalys 3y ago
Correction: The founders sold it to Zuckerberg for billions of dollars. Saying he “took it from them” is outright dishonest.
- annadane 3y ago
  They sold it under the condition he wouldn't lie, it was a condition for him to have it, and he lied
  - DropInIn 3y ago
    It's not a condition if it's not in the contract or if it is and is not acted upon. In either of those cases it's just lip service.
  - avalys 3y ago
    So why didn’t they take the billions of dollars he paid them and sue to have this “condition” upheld?
    - GGO 3y ago
      well he took money under the promise and when FB broke the promise, he walked away and left $850M on the table. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/whatsapp-co-founder-walked-away-142200777.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/whatsapp-co-founder-walked-aw...
      - nilsbunger 3y ago
        To punish Facebook for breaking their promise, he ... gave Facebook $850M (by not vesting all his equity) ?
        mcpackieh 3y ago
        Angry people can be irrational. That's my read.
    - thakoppno 3y ago
      > I’m taking some time off to do things outside of technology, such as collecting rare air-cooled Porsches.
    - lost_tourist 3y ago
      I'll never understand why people don't place value on integrity. I mean day to day people and not stockholders. Zuck controls what happens at Meta, it's not a board decision on stuff like this unless Zuck tells them to do it.
      - deleted 3y ago
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    - er4hn 3y ago
      One of the co-founders, Brian Acton, has funded most of Signal (~100M USD) in his post WhapsApp life. It is a very hacker mindset solution. Instead of turning to the law to enforce nebulous claims against a megacorp, make a better product with the money you got from said megacorp.
      - bboygravity 3y ago
        Plot twist: Signal turns out to be a CIA honey-pot.
        brewdad 3y ago
        I know "nothing to hide" is never a strong argument but even if Signal is a CIA honeypot, if it keeps my personal conversations from becoming marketing fodder, sign me up!
        pessimizer 3y ago
        I'm definitely not a "nothing to hide" guy, but if the CIA wants something on me they're going to find it in 5 minutes. They would only be using a backdoored Signal to get the smart guys; so I guess I have to thank the smart guys for the CIA giving us Signal...
        Firmwarrior 3y ago
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avalys 3y ago

Correction: The founders sold it to Zuckerberg for billions of dollars. Saying he “took it from them” is outright dishonest.

annadane 3y ago
They sold it under the condition he wouldn't lie, it was a condition for him to have it, and he lied
- DropInIn 3y ago
  It's not a condition if it's not in the contract or if it is and is not acted upon. In either of those cases it's just lip service.
- avalys 3y ago
  So why didn’t they take the billions of dollars he paid them and sue to have this “condition” upheld?
  - GGO 3y ago
    well he took money under the promise and when FB broke the promise, he walked away and left $850M on the table. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/whatsapp-co-founder-walked-away-142200777.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/whatsapp-co-founder-walked-aw...
    - nilsbunger 3y ago
      To punish Facebook for breaking their promise, he ... gave Facebook $850M (by not vesting all his equity) ?
      - mcpackieh 3y ago
        Angry people can be irrational. That's my read.
  - thakoppno 3y ago
    > I’m taking some time off to do things outside of technology, such as collecting rare air-cooled Porsches.
  - lost_tourist 3y ago
    I'll never understand why people don't place value on integrity. I mean day to day people and not stockholders. Zuck controls what happens at Meta, it's not a board decision on stuff like this unless Zuck tells them to do it.
    - deleted 3y ago
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  - er4hn 3y ago
    One of the co-founders, Brian Acton, has funded most of Signal (~100M USD) in his post WhapsApp life. It is a very hacker mindset solution. Instead of turning to the law to enforce nebulous claims against a megacorp, make a better product with the money you got from said megacorp.
    - bboygravity 3y ago
      Plot twist: Signal turns out to be a CIA honey-pot.
      - brewdad 3y ago
        I know "nothing to hide" is never a strong argument but even if Signal is a CIA honeypot, if it keeps my personal conversations from becoming marketing fodder, sign me up!
        pessimizer 3y ago
        I'm definitely not a "nothing to hide" guy, but if the CIA wants something on me they're going to find it in 5 minutes. They would only be using a backdoored Signal to get the smart guys; so I guess I have to thank the smart guys for the CIA giving us Signal...
        Firmwarrior 3y ago
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