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Sad to go through your life living in fear though, for covid or climate change.
by throwawaylinux 3y ago
Sad to go through your life living in fear though, for covid or climate change.
- ClassyJacket 3y agoYes it is, which is why we need a global, world war 2 sized effort, beginning IMMEDIATELY to stop climate change.
- throwawaylinux 3y agoThat is not why we would need such a thing. It's not necessary or sufficient to prevent terrified people living in perpetual fear of things politicians and experts tell them to be afraid of. Rational and level headed efforts to tackle problems like climate change would be welcome. A great first step would be to vote out all politicians who use it for political games by riling up panic and then actually doing very little about it.
- photonerd 3y agoYou’ll never make them understand. They’ve made being a contrary fool who distrusts experts a core, emotional, part of their personality
- throwawaylinux 3y ago[flagged]
- photonerd 3y agoBecause it’s an intellectually dishonest, manipulative, and frankly… stupid, comment to make. You’re either a troll or a fool, you appear to be conceding you’re the former.
- throwawaylinux 3y ago> Because it’s an intellectually dishonest, manipulative, and frankly… stupid, comment to make. I disagree with your unsubstantiated assertions. > You’re either a troll or a fool, you appear to be conceding you’re the former. This violates the sites rules, no name calling. Please try to do better.
- photonerd 3y ago[flagged]
- throwawaylinux 3y agoWrong again, it was name calling.
- ChainOfFools 3y agoIt's just the bunny slopes or foothills of extremist signalling, having to demonstrate that you're the sort of person who doesn't get upset at the things that cause other people grief and despair (which of course you take every opportunity to exaggerate) with the presumable but unspoken conclusion that you're the AntiSnowflake gifted with exceptional reserves of mental fortitude or maturity. Like bullshiting, these positions don't care whether the arguments they are contradicting are right or wrong, they only care that it in opposing them they can project an image of cool unconcern. This is what being an internet tough guy has sunk to in the age of twitter.
- throwawaylinux 3y agoNot living in terror and despair of things that are largely outside my control = extremist? Maybe it is you who is the extremist. Living in fear, anger, a strange frothing hatred for people who are different. If anybody would appreciate why someone would not want to live their life that way, I'd think it would be you.
- mistermann 3y agoClairvoyance is perhaps also not optimal.
- biohacker85 3y agoI'll answer this in good faith. I can't help but be skeptical yet practice a version of "pascals wager" but apply it to climate change. I drive an electric vehicle, power my house with solar, reduce air travel, etc. I have 2 major issues: The first is that the environmental damage we are currently doing-- destruction of our oceans, polluting our air and water, etc. will destroy our planet in a few generations any ways, climate change not required. Second is that I am skeptical of our governments response. I don't believe they genuinely care about solving it other than making money off it. Does it really matter if I am skeptical? I am doing what little a normal citizen is expected to do to fight it. *edit: fixed spelling
- photonerd 3y agoWhat you describe there isn’t skepticism (you concede everything but then claim, somehow, that all that isn’t climate change… bizarrely). It’s apathy.
- biohacker85 3y ago> you concede everything Air/ocean pollution and environmental damage !== climate change. Climate change is specifically about greenhouse emissions trapping the suns heat causing long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns. > It’s apathy I am following the prescribed "action plan" for the average citizen. What would you have me do? Not everyone can be a political activist. My point was that even in a hypothetical scenario where climate change is false (no rise in global temperatures or change in weather patterns), the damage we are doing to the earth is still enough to destroy it.
- Fricken 3y agoThere was that subreddit, r/hermancainaward, where you could spend all day reading tales of people who weren't afraid of Covid, until they were. Then they died.
- throwawaylinux 3y agoFear has nothing to do with it, you can make a rational assessment of risks and reasonable decisions to mitigate them without living in terror. I sometimes drive my automobile for non-essential reasons too despite that being one of my largest risk factors, much larger than covid.
- Fricken 3y agoI guess we're in agreement. It's terrifying because we're not making reasonable decisions to mitigate the risks. I'm a rock climber and I've gotten into enough tricky situations on the cliffs. So long as you can take action the fear is manageable. It's when there is seemingly no viable action to take that the bad fear sets in. Thing is, the risks I take personally as a climber aren't as big as the risk were taking collectively as a civilization by not acting on climate change, even though the risks I take go well beyond what most people would accept if they understand what they were in for.
- throwawaylinux 3y agoWe are most certainly not in agreement. You implied that one had to live in fear of covid in order to make rational choices about it. I mean it's okay that you were, you don't have to do the macho act to save face or anything. It's a very common response even irrational fear (and is unfortunately exploited). I was not saying that's the "wrong" way to feel or live, just that it saddens me to think of people feeling like that.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoIf you were 70+ then COVID was far more likely to kill your than driving. But most of us weren’t 70+ and couldn’t really empathize with those that were.
- userbinator 3y ago"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."