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I think that like share dividends in the UK, it attracts a lower tax rate. I think Sweden is 30%? However, "gifting" monies to people is a strange area, with v

I think that like share dividends in the UK, it attracts a lower tax rate. I think Sweden is 30%? However, "gifting" monies to people is a strange area, with various odd rules. You can only give away a certain amount of money a year in the UK, and that depends on who it is you are giving to or even the circumstance. (EG, you can gift £5,000 as a wedding gift.)

petercooper 15y ago
If I had to guess, I imagine he refused a dividend and instead had the company issue the equivalent sum in bonuses to the employees. Tax wise it'd make no sense for him to take a dividend and then create havoc by gifting it. (At least, under UK style tax law.)
- gebe 15y ago
  I don't know how it would work out in this particular case (there might be other juridical complications) but Sweden has no taxes (any longer) on gifts.
  - mseebach 15y ago
    You can't give a gift to employees. Otherwise everybody would get part of their salary as a gift.
    - obtu 15y ago
      But once the dividend tax is paid to make the money Notch's, and not Mojang's, the money no longer comes from the employer, does it? </not-an-accountant>
- Chrono 15y ago
  Gifts are no longer taxes in Sweden but it is likely that the tax authority will regard it as income (Or bonus) and they will pay 50-56% taxes on the lot. Quite tricky but I assume Mojang has good accountants that will work it out!
  - petercooper 15y ago
    Yeah, it should get caught somehow otherwise companies would just gift their employees every month ;-) So I suspect gifting would still be tax inefficient, since he'd have paid taxes on the dividend and then employees would pay tax on the gift.. whereas skipping the dividend and just getting bonuses could cut out one whole layer of tax.
    - m_eiman 15y ago
      There's no tax on gifts in Sweden, and the dividend tax is 30%, compared to 50% or so on salaries. So if the IRS doesn't consider it a compensation for work (which they will, of course) gifting the dividends would mean less tax.
  - rmc 15y ago
    I assume Mojang has good accountants If they don't, they just take a slice of the $3mil and give it to an accountant.

petercooper 15y ago

If I had to guess, I imagine he refused a dividend and instead had the company issue the equivalent sum in bonuses to the employees. Tax wise it'd make no sense for him to take a dividend and then create havoc by gifting it. (At least, under UK style tax law.)

gebe 15y ago
I don't know how it would work out in this particular case (there might be other juridical complications) but Sweden has no taxes (any longer) on gifts.
- mseebach 15y ago
  You can't give a gift to employees. Otherwise everybody would get part of their salary as a gift.
  - obtu 15y ago
    But once the dividend tax is paid to make the money Notch's, and not Mojang's, the money no longer comes from the employer, does it? </not-an-accountant>
Chrono 15y ago
Gifts are no longer taxes in Sweden but it is likely that the tax authority will regard it as income (Or bonus) and they will pay 50-56% taxes on the lot. Quite tricky but I assume Mojang has good accountants that will work it out!
- petercooper 15y ago
  Yeah, it should get caught somehow otherwise companies would just gift their employees every month ;-) So I suspect gifting would still be tax inefficient, since he'd have paid taxes on the dividend and then employees would pay tax on the gift.. whereas skipping the dividend and just getting bonuses could cut out one whole layer of tax.
  - m_eiman 15y ago
    There's no tax on gifts in Sweden, and the dividend tax is 30%, compared to 50% or so on salaries. So if the IRS doesn't consider it a compensation for work (which they will, of course) gifting the dividends would mean less tax.
- rmc 15y ago
  I assume Mojang has good accountants If they don't, they just take a slice of the $3mil and give it to an accountant.