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Which model Synology? I am looking into one of the dual/quad core Celeron models because I heard the iGPU is critical for any kind of transcoding.

https443 3y ago
It worked on my older "DS 216+II". Could not stream more than 1 person at a time though. That was ok for my usage but not sure for yours. I recently upgraded to "DS 423+" and it's a lot faster - can have multiple streams going if I want.
- ufish235 3y ago
  Do you ever notice/regret the fact that it only has 1GBe instead of 2.5?
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    I run a 1821 and stuck a super cheap 10gbe card into it. It’s fantastic.
syntaxing 3y ago
Not OP, but you pretty much have to run the Celeron ones. I don't think the docker image would work with the Realtek ones (the ones that end in j). I have a DS220+ (J4025 with dual core only). It works ok, you pretty much max out one of the cores running a 4K stream. I would recommend separating the storage and server if you can afford it. The price difference between the quad core (4 bay) and 2 core (has 2 bay) is enough to get a 2 bay + a N95 mini pc that can handle 4 streams of 4K.
- seanp2k2 3y ago
  Another idea is to get a thin client with an i7 or i9 (you probably want at least 10th gen at this point) and either an external enclosure for a few SSDs or if you find one with a PCIE slot, a PCIE card to fit maybe 4x m.2 SSDs. Some good deals are out there on U.2 SSDs if you look as well, like 8TB for $400 from Intel or WD good. Don’t forget that Asrock Rack and Supermicro sell Atom and Xeon-D boards, as well as some Ryzen AM4/5 models if you want to DIY. There are great cases out there (eg Fractal Node 304/804) these days that support full-size modular PSUs with 80+ Titanium ratings to sip power. That’s been my biggest gripe with x86 over ARM: idle power usage for something I expect to have on 24x7 with PG&Es 50c/kWh. I just rebuilt my old desktop 5950x into a NAS using a Silverstone RM44 with air cooling, but it’s made to support liquid as well. That’s got plenty of room to fit 4X full-size GPUs and a power supply to match if you dabble with AI on the side. RTX 4060s are coming soon for $300 and that should be more than enough power for transcodes for the whole family.
  - syntaxing 3y ago
    I actually think buying a first gen Mac Mini M1 is a better idea with a thunderbolt drive storage. I have friends in California that does this for the reasons you mentioned. The utility price has made homelab servers and 3D printing pretty much non viable unless you want to pay a $300+ electricity bill.
    - ufish235 3y ago
      Actually I do have an M1 Mac Mini - what's his setup? Maybe my problem is that MacOS doesn't feel as friendly for getting an entire homeland setup.
      - syntaxing 3y ago
        He runs Jellyfin straight up from the downloads page [1]. I'm not entirely sure if it runs on Rosetta but he hasn't had any issues with multiple streams. For storage you have a couple options but enabling file sharing on macos + a large drive of your choice is your best bet. [1] https://jellyfin.org/downloads/macos https://jellyfin.org/downloads/macos
      - lostlogin 3y ago
        It’ll run through docker surely? A nice docker compose media server is a beautiful thing to behold. I use a Nuc but the Mac mini would be a great server (though costs a lot).
        seanp2k2 3y ago
        If anyone wants to try this, be wary of transcode acceleration / HW passthru with Docker, esp on M1/M2. In general I’d love it if there was a GUI-less stripped-down MacOS Server edition instead of running the full-fat consumer OS as an always-on server.
        ufish235 3y ago
        What is there to be wary of? It won't work at all?

https443 3y ago

It worked on my older "DS 216+II". Could not stream more than 1 person at a time though. That was ok for my usage but not sure for yours. I recently upgraded to "DS 423+" and it's a lot faster - can have multiple streams going if I want.

ufish235 3y ago
Do you ever notice/regret the fact that it only has 1GBe instead of 2.5?
- lostlogin 3y ago
  I run a 1821 and stuck a super cheap 10gbe card into it. It’s fantastic.

syntaxing 3y ago

Not OP, but you pretty much have to run the Celeron ones. I don't think the docker image would work with the Realtek ones (the ones that end in j). I have a DS220+ (J4025 with dual core only). It works ok, you pretty much max out one of the cores running a 4K stream. I would recommend separating the storage and server if you can afford it. The price difference between the quad core (4 bay) and 2 core (has 2 bay) is enough to get a 2 bay + a N95 mini pc that can handle 4 streams of 4K.

seanp2k2 3y ago
Another idea is to get a thin client with an i7 or i9 (you probably want at least 10th gen at this point) and either an external enclosure for a few SSDs or if you find one with a PCIE slot, a PCIE card to fit maybe 4x m.2 SSDs. Some good deals are out there on U.2 SSDs if you look as well, like 8TB for $400 from Intel or WD good. Don’t forget that Asrock Rack and Supermicro sell Atom and Xeon-D boards, as well as some Ryzen AM4/5 models if you want to DIY. There are great cases out there (eg Fractal Node 304/804) these days that support full-size modular PSUs with 80+ Titanium ratings to sip power. That’s been my biggest gripe with x86 over ARM: idle power usage for something I expect to have on 24x7 with PG&Es 50c/kWh. I just rebuilt my old desktop 5950x into a NAS using a Silverstone RM44 with air cooling, but it’s made to support liquid as well. That’s got plenty of room to fit 4X full-size GPUs and a power supply to match if you dabble with AI on the side. RTX 4060s are coming soon for $300 and that should be more than enough power for transcodes for the whole family.
- syntaxing 3y ago
  I actually think buying a first gen Mac Mini M1 is a better idea with a thunderbolt drive storage. I have friends in California that does this for the reasons you mentioned. The utility price has made homelab servers and 3D printing pretty much non viable unless you want to pay a $300+ electricity bill.
  - ufish235 3y ago
    Actually I do have an M1 Mac Mini - what's his setup? Maybe my problem is that MacOS doesn't feel as friendly for getting an entire homeland setup.
    - syntaxing 3y ago
      He runs Jellyfin straight up from the downloads page [1]. I'm not entirely sure if it runs on Rosetta but he hasn't had any issues with multiple streams. For storage you have a couple options but enabling file sharing on macos + a large drive of your choice is your best bet. [1] https://jellyfin.org/downloads/macos https://jellyfin.org/downloads/macos
    - lostlogin 3y ago
      It’ll run through docker surely? A nice docker compose media server is a beautiful thing to behold. I use a Nuc but the Mac mini would be a great server (though costs a lot).
      - seanp2k2 3y ago
        If anyone wants to try this, be wary of transcode acceleration / HW passthru with Docker, esp on M1/M2. In general I’d love it if there was a GUI-less stripped-down MacOS Server edition instead of running the full-fat consumer OS as an always-on server.
        ufish235 3y ago
        What is there to be wary of? It won't work at all?