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Strike you say? That's like, as Louis Rossmann on his yt channel wisely said, "I am so angry, so infuriated that you're abusing me, that ..... I WILL... leave f
by eksapsy 3y ago
Strike you say? That's like, as Louis Rossmann on his yt channel wisely said, "I am so angry, so infuriated that you're abusing me, that ..... I WILL... leave for 3 days and then come back for the rest of my life".
Like it's literally like saying "hey I need you in my life". Do you know what message that sends? What would you think if your customers would say "hey Im not gonna come for 3 days but I'm coming for the rest of the year" ? Would you give a damn?
Reddit is a commodity. Admittedly a great one. Used to be at least. We'll create another one or they'll fix themselves, but they won't unless they know you're not going to use them unless they fix themselves.
No strike is successful unless you actually make them understand that they can't live without you or that ••AT LEAST* that you're doing your part.
Like, is reddit scared of me deleting my account? I think it doesn't give a damn. Is reddit gonna give a damn if another 100k accounts start getting deleted along with mine? At least they're gonna start noticing. And at least I can say that I've done my part.
Ive deleted my reddit account and I'm done with Reddit. Until they fix themselves and realize that acting that greedy and immaturely with lies about conversations that never happened between the Apollo programmer and /u/spez are not gonna pass. At least not from me, i'm fairly disgusted by the Reddit leadership.
- jachee 3y agoFWIW, Many of the participating subs are going dark indefinitely. And the real APIcalypse will happen in a couple of weeks, when people actually using third party apps literally can’t anymore.
- arthens 3y agoIndefinitely until reddit picks new moderators and reopen them. No way they'll allow major subs closing down.
- teaearlgraycold 3y agoYes but there are too many big subs closing. My guess is they couldn't support more than a couple dozen on their own.
- jacksnipe 3y agoMods are not fungible. It’s tempting to feel that they are, but they have an enormous influence on their communities.
- pests 3y agoName a single mod. I can't.
- cedilla 3y agoRossmann seems to have misunderstood what a strike is. A strike is always between two parties that depend on each other. "Leaving forever" is the only thing that won't send a message. If you're truly gone forever, Reddit has no shared interest with you any longer.
- teaearlgraycold 3y agoAnd powerful strikes go on for weeks if there is no acceptable compromise made.
- htag 3y agoI use to be a reddit power user, but my relationship with the platform has been extremely casual (less than 5 hours/yr) for the last 10 years. Even after all this time, Reddit could win me back as a power user if the platform was better.
- mikewarot 3y agoThe two parties here are the public, and the corporations owning social networking sites. You're not sending a message to Reddit, true enough... but it does send a VERY strong message to the rest of the tech bros and their investors that Reddit f*cked up, bad, if their numbers crash.
- DamnInteresting 3y ago> "I am so angry, so infuriated that you're abusing me, that ..... I WILL... leave for 3 days and then come back for the rest of my life". "for the rest of my life" is a big assumption. This strike could/should be the first in a series of escalating strikes. If parties truly seek change, and not just punishment, it is tactically unwise for one's first response to be maximum retaliation.
- brucethemoose2 3y agoSubreddits have been striking for years. This is not the first response. This is quite an escalation though.
- itzworm 3y agoThis my take as well. I'll be doing the strike, and possibly an extended strike. Then I'll briefly return to see where the communities I follow are migrating to. After that I'll have no more need for reddit since most of the communities I follow are tech related and will almost certainly be looking for a new home should the behavior at the top continue.
- thyrox 3y agoBut sometimes sites do die. Digg is a big example of this. It started with the top users like MrBabyMan posting against the site and then it quickly snowballed taking the whole site with it. Doesn't always happens but it can happen and we can still hope.
- LelouBil 3y agoSome subreddits are private for 48hrs, others are indefinitely private until the issue is resolved
- treyd 3y agoThat Louis Rossman quote is really great actually. I feels to me like a lot of people see very popular platform services "suddenly and unexpectedly" turning around and start changing things in ways that are very unpopular, but I don't see it very common for people (on reddit at least) to point out the common characteristic between them, that they're almost always startups with investors to answer to, is the reason that they end up making unpopular changes. It really does feel a little bit like an abusive relationship that it keeps happening and yet people keep using these investor-backed startup platforms that initially offer deals that are too good to be true.
- munchler 3y agoMany of us are quitting Reddit for good on June 30 when Apollo and the other third-party apps are killed. This week's strike is just a warning shot across Reddit's bow.
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- 0xr0kk3r 3y agoI don’t believe that for a hot minute. These peoples’ identities are so wrapped up in Reddit it’s be like amputating a limb. No way.
- _sword 3y agoI only browse Reddit on my phone, and I use Apollo, so when that’s gone I’m not sure I’d use Reddit anymore
- hapticmonkey 3y agoI’d like to continue using the site, but third party apps are the only way to do so in a bearable way. The mobile site and official app have terrible UX and bugs that make the whole experience rather infuriating.
- SllX 3y agoThere is a ton of information I need to make sure I have saved, so I might not be out by June 30th, but I can’t see myself using Reddit remotely like I do through Apollo. Mobile apps made Reddit for me when the primary reason I hadn’t made an account till 2013 was because I thought even the old website was bad. Alien Blue, BaconReader, Narwhal, and then eventually Apollo. All of them great apps, and that was Reddit for me.
- celdon25 3y agoI'm inclined to believe this considering how toxic of a place it has become. If that didn't drive them away I don't see how losing some 3rd party "enhancements" are going to break the bank for them.