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3499. Could this finally be the turning point and beginning of collapse of Apple?

by illuminati1911 3y ago

bsaul 3y ago
for purely professional usage, it's still fine. But it'll remain quite niche.
throwaway4good 3y ago
We didn’t get the car but we got the price tag.
smoldesu 3y ago
No. But it's an outrageous price for a redundant product that most people will not purchase. I don't see any meaningful market leverage for Apple here relative to Meta - if the selling point for this is "experiences, plus iPhone apps" then everyone with an iPhone will get a Quest or similar and save a few thousand bucks.
just-ok 3y ago
I suppose if you think of it as a high-end MacBook Pro + display, it’s an easier pill to swallow.
- ChildOfChaos 3y ago
  It might be, but you still need the MacBook Pro if you want to use this as a Mac. So this is just the display, that can access some iPad apps. Although I still think it's pretty awesome, need to give it a few years and see the price come down and a few versions later, this tech will be very interesting in the 5-10 year time space, what a crazy time that is going to be with AI and all this stuff.
- bunga-bunga 3y ago
  I'll believe it when I see Xcode running on the thing. Plus I would not want to be seen around wearing that thing.
- illuminati1911 3y ago
  Of course if we lie to ourselves. It's just an iOS app browser inside Oculus Quest like product + Disney content.
threeseed 3y ago
Apple won't have the supply chain to make this a consumer product for years. So it makes no sense to price it at $399.
- replygirl 3y ago
  It's just disappointing when we know they can easily afford to go Fairchild and hit $2k to help commoditize it a little
stephc_int13 3y ago
I don't think this is a revolution but it might be a good enough improvement over existing/previous XR devices. It certainly seems better than Microsoft Hololens. Basically the same idea but with higher end hardware and more refined. This does not look like to be a turning point either way, it is priced out of mass market adoption, but it will be an interesting toy for many.
fsloth 3y ago
A high end VR/XR display like Varjo does feel like a new ux paradigm if the device has low latency and high resolution and good software. Given how long Apple has been at this I would bet they’ve come up with something that is of expected quality. Some of the stuff on display felt gimmicky, but I would imagine as bare minimum there are lot of people who are happy to have a private huge 4k screen they can move anywhere.
whartung 3y ago
Into an ecosystem where people buy a $1000 watch, $1000 phone, $200 earphones, and a $2000 computer. There is absolutely a market for this, the demo experiences are extraordinary. I have no idea what the Meta experience is like, but even in ignorance, it's not like what this thing is doing. They were correct in saying this is something only Apple can do. There are a lot of isolated technophiles with money to burn to put into something like this. The idea of lifting your mac into space with nothing but a keyboard and mouse in front of you alone is enough for many to pop for this. Talk about bringing your office into the local Starbucks, this moves it to the next level.

3499. Could this finally be the turning point and beginning of collapse of Apple?

bsaul 3y ago

for purely professional usage, it's still fine. But it'll remain quite niche.

throwaway4good 3y ago

We didn’t get the car but we got the price tag.

smoldesu 3y ago

No. But it's an outrageous price for a redundant product that most people will not purchase. I don't see any meaningful market leverage for Apple here relative to Meta - if the selling point for this is "experiences, plus iPhone apps" then everyone with an iPhone will get a Quest or similar and save a few thousand bucks.

just-ok 3y ago

I suppose if you think of it as a high-end MacBook Pro + display, it’s an easier pill to swallow.

ChildOfChaos 3y ago
It might be, but you still need the MacBook Pro if you want to use this as a Mac. So this is just the display, that can access some iPad apps. Although I still think it's pretty awesome, need to give it a few years and see the price come down and a few versions later, this tech will be very interesting in the 5-10 year time space, what a crazy time that is going to be with AI and all this stuff.
bunga-bunga 3y ago
I'll believe it when I see Xcode running on the thing. Plus I would not want to be seen around wearing that thing.
illuminati1911 3y ago
Of course if we lie to ourselves. It's just an iOS app browser inside Oculus Quest like product + Disney content.

threeseed 3y ago

Apple won't have the supply chain to make this a consumer product for years. So it makes no sense to price it at $399.

replygirl 3y ago
It's just disappointing when we know they can easily afford to go Fairchild and hit $2k to help commoditize it a little

stephc_int13 3y ago

I don't think this is a revolution but it might be a good enough improvement over existing/previous XR devices. It certainly seems better than Microsoft Hololens. Basically the same idea but with higher end hardware and more refined. This does not look like to be a turning point either way, it is priced out of mass market adoption, but it will be an interesting toy for many.

fsloth 3y ago

A high end VR/XR display like Varjo does feel like a new ux paradigm if the device has low latency and high resolution and good software. Given how long Apple has been at this I would bet they’ve come up with something that is of expected quality. Some of the stuff on display felt gimmicky, but I would imagine as bare minimum there are lot of people who are happy to have a private huge 4k screen they can move anywhere.

whartung 3y ago

Into an ecosystem where people buy a $1000 watch, $1000 phone, $200 earphones, and a $2000 computer. There is absolutely a market for this, the demo experiences are extraordinary. I have no idea what the Meta experience is like, but even in ignorance, it's not like what this thing is doing. They were correct in saying this is something only Apple can do. There are a lot of isolated technophiles with money to burn to put into something like this. The idea of lifting your mac into space with nothing but a keyboard and mouse in front of you alone is enough for many to pop for this. Talk about bringing your office into the local Starbucks, this moves it to the next level.