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> LXDE/LXQT/Mate/Enlightenment/Cinammon Of these, I would say that Cinnamon is one that could be comparable to XFCE or even GNOME and KDE. Seriously, it's good

> LXDE/LXQT/Mate/Enlightenment/Cinammon Of these, I would say that Cinnamon is one that could be comparable to XFCE or even GNOME and KDE. Seriously, it's good. The system settings menu has all of the options one could need and the look and feel of the dektop is very customizable. I'm a KDE user, but if it ever stopped working/disappeared I would use Cinnamon. In fact I plan to use it whenever KDE Plasma 6 releases to wait out until the it becomes more stable.

doubled112 4y ago
To me recently, Cinnamon feels like they took GNOME technologies and built the default Plasma desktop in them.
jraph 4y ago
> KDE Plasma 6 releases to wait out until the it becomes more stable. IIRC KDE committed to never break users again like they did with the first releases of KDE 4. It's expect the first releases of Plasma 6 that the distros will actually ship to be stable, and to be mostly a Qt5 → Qt 6 upgrade. You should be able to run a stable version of Plasma (5 or 6) in any case during this period. KDE 3 to 4 was a disaster; last versions of KDE 4 were rock solid. First versions of Plasma 5 were a bit lacking but rapidly became very stable and usable, and you could actually keep using KDE 4 in the meantime. I expect the Plasma 6 transition to be even smoother. I hope I'm not wrong. But otherwise I agree, Cinnamon seems very good and I tend to recommend it and pick it for people who I install Linux for.
- tmtvl 4y ago
  Sorry, but as an early adopter of Plasma 5 (granted, maybe a bit too early), it was terribly broken for a couple of months. I took refuge in Awesome until things stabilized.
  - jraph 4y ago
    I indeed waited several months before adopting Plasma 5
  - kuschku 4y ago
    Plasma 5 was so broken for me, I've been on Budgie while waiting for KDE to return to its glory days.
    - tmtvl 4y ago
      I can see that. For me personally about a year~ish ago Plasma Wayland reached the point where it's good enough for me to use as a daily driver... ...though I do lament the loss of Desktop Cube. Of course, coming from Awesome I am often annoyed at how Plasma doesn't have per-screen (X11 monitor, if I'm not mistaken) tags and per-X11-display workspaces don't really work that well.
  - pxc 4y ago
    Huh. I started using Plasma 5 on a bleeding edge rolling distro and it was just fine. Everything was a mix of KDE4 and KDE5 apps for a while, but they all worked with minor quirks at worst. What were your issues? What was the distro?
    - tmtvl 4y ago
      I believe I was switching between Arch and OpenSUSE at the time, and I didn't note down specific issues, I seem to recall problems with kwin dying... maybe something to do with multihead? If I'm not mistaken I was still using a PC with a Radeon HD 7770 GPU at the time (for all the Catalyst issues I've had, still one of my favourite pieces of computer hardware I've ever owned), so it could have been iffy interactions between moving parts. I do seem to recall a period when I got many, many panics (or oopses, I dunno, screen went black and nothing reacted to anything), I think that was around the same time. Forgive the vagueness, but I don't believe in memories and haven't kept a journal. Still, as completely unreliable and untrustworthy human memory is I am inclined to believe I had issues with Plasma 5 during the transition period.
      - pxc 4y ago
        Yeah, I'm sure you did run into real issues. I was trying to figure out if they were distro issues, or if issues that also affected me were more of a problem for your workflow than mine, etc. Either way I think that still sounds better than the old 3->4 migration, and hopefully 5->6 can be better still!

doubled112 4y ago

To me recently, Cinnamon feels like they took GNOME technologies and built the default Plasma desktop in them.

jraph 4y ago

> KDE Plasma 6 releases to wait out until the it becomes more stable. IIRC KDE committed to never break users again like they did with the first releases of KDE 4. It's expect the first releases of Plasma 6 that the distros will actually ship to be stable, and to be mostly a Qt5 → Qt 6 upgrade. You should be able to run a stable version of Plasma (5 or 6) in any case during this period. KDE 3 to 4 was a disaster; last versions of KDE 4 were rock solid. First versions of Plasma 5 were a bit lacking but rapidly became very stable and usable, and you could actually keep using KDE 4 in the meantime. I expect the Plasma 6 transition to be even smoother. I hope I'm not wrong. But otherwise I agree, Cinnamon seems very good and I tend to recommend it and pick it for people who I install Linux for.

tmtvl 4y ago
Sorry, but as an early adopter of Plasma 5 (granted, maybe a bit too early), it was terribly broken for a couple of months. I took refuge in Awesome until things stabilized.
- jraph 4y ago
  I indeed waited several months before adopting Plasma 5
- kuschku 4y ago
  Plasma 5 was so broken for me, I've been on Budgie while waiting for KDE to return to its glory days.
  - tmtvl 4y ago
    I can see that. For me personally about a year~ish ago Plasma Wayland reached the point where it's good enough for me to use as a daily driver... ...though I do lament the loss of Desktop Cube. Of course, coming from Awesome I am often annoyed at how Plasma doesn't have per-screen (X11 monitor, if I'm not mistaken) tags and per-X11-display workspaces don't really work that well.
- pxc 4y ago
  Huh. I started using Plasma 5 on a bleeding edge rolling distro and it was just fine. Everything was a mix of KDE4 and KDE5 apps for a while, but they all worked with minor quirks at worst. What were your issues? What was the distro?
  - tmtvl 4y ago
    I believe I was switching between Arch and OpenSUSE at the time, and I didn't note down specific issues, I seem to recall problems with kwin dying... maybe something to do with multihead? If I'm not mistaken I was still using a PC with a Radeon HD 7770 GPU at the time (for all the Catalyst issues I've had, still one of my favourite pieces of computer hardware I've ever owned), so it could have been iffy interactions between moving parts. I do seem to recall a period when I got many, many panics (or oopses, I dunno, screen went black and nothing reacted to anything), I think that was around the same time. Forgive the vagueness, but I don't believe in memories and haven't kept a journal. Still, as completely unreliable and untrustworthy human memory is I am inclined to believe I had issues with Plasma 5 during the transition period.
    - pxc 4y ago
      Yeah, I'm sure you did run into real issues. I was trying to figure out if they were distro issues, or if issues that also affected me were more of a problem for your workflow than mine, etc. Either way I think that still sounds better than the old 3->4 migration, and hopefully 5->6 can be better still!