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the BIG 4 I'm referring to are Accenture, McKinsey, BCG and Bain.
by tequila_shot 4y ago
the BIG 4 I'm referring to are Accenture, McKinsey, BCG and Bain.
- carabiner 4y agolol. McK isn't a body shop. McK = ivy league grads, olympic medalists, top PhD's from flagship state schools. I mean Chelsea Clinton worked at McKinsey. You think she's going to be managing some Indians on setting up SAP?
- SargeDebian 4y agoIf you redefine common terms as you go, you should at least give the reader a heads up. Nobody uses “big 4” for MBB and Accenture. Those are not the same type of companies.
- fphhotchips 4y agoThere's nothing quite so "tell me you worked for Accenture without telling me you worked for Accenture" as referring to MBB and Accenture as "Big 4". It's like Deloitte consultants referring to MBBD.
- operatingthetan 4y ago>It's like Deloitte consultants referring to MBBD. I'm pretty sure that's just a reddit meme, but I guess it's funny someone took it seriously?
- eastbound 4y agoThe whole thread is debating who’s sitting in the BIG4 and all I see is companies trying to belong on musical chairs. What’s strangest to me is we’re not in an early-Schumpeter cycle, seats should be well-established by now, it’s been half a century.
- SargeDebian 4y agoIt is well established, which is why it’s somewhat funny when someone “disagrees”.
- hallqv 4y agoAccenture is not even close to MBB in terms on hourly rates (~1/5) & “status”. They are a 3rd tier firm.
- throwaway202212 4y agoAccenture aren't even in the Vault Consulting Top 50 rankings. I don't know how this list is calculated but people in consulting tend to refer to this (I used to work at MBB).
- curiousllama 4y agoKeep in mind that Accenture has a lot more variability than MBB or Big 4. I've seen McKinsey undercut Accenture on price for strategy projects
- luma 4y agoHow do you know an Accenture consultant? They change "Big 3" to "Big 4".
- HelloMcFly 4y agoAccenture has over 700,000 employees. Pretty easy to see how they'd get lumped in given they are everywhere, working for everyone. I am not nor have I ever been an Accenture consultant.
- mitt_romney_12 4y agoThe Big 3 distinction isn't based on firm size (McKinsey, Bain, and BCG only have 38k, 25k, and 15k employees respectively) but rather on prestige and type of work done.
- ThisIsTheWay 4y agoIs this distinction why they are often called the Top 3, not the Big 3?
- mitt_romney_12 4y agoI haven't really heard Top 3 so I can't say, usually it's Big 3 or MBB. The Big part refers more to prestige and influence rather than actually size.
- barry-cotter 4y agoDell is not lumped in with MAGMA even though they’re everywhere and everyone knows who they are because they have completely different business models, employee pools and compensation. They’re barely in the same industry, if you squint. Similarly with Accenture and prestige consultancies. If you were going to have a Big 4 the fourth would be AT Kearney, not Accenture.
- wheelinsupial 4y agoAccenture is a new one to me. I've seen MBBD(eloitte) used a fair bit, but figured it was just a reddit meme.
- turing_complete 4y agoOne of those four is not like the others.
- mbesto 4y agoThat's not the Big 4. There is "Big 4" and "MBB", that's it. Big 4 = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Four_accounting_firms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Four_accounting_firms Big Three / MBB = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Three_%28management_consultancies%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Three_%28management_consul...
- kabes 4y agoAccenture is neither in the big 3, nor the big 4.