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Britain? All major media outlets and social network platforms worldwide now have established censorship as "the new normal". The only mainstream platform now s

Britain? All major media outlets and social network platforms worldwide now have established censorship as "the new normal". The only mainstream platform now setting itself up to become the exception to this is the one platform that since a few weeks gets consistently attacked by the establishment: Twitter.

Analemma_ 4y ago
Don’t make me laugh. Have you seen how many people have been banned from Twitter in the last week because they criticized its manchild-in-chief?
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- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
  No, I haven't, but I'm interested to hear about it. Got any reading material?
  - notahacker 4y ago
    A whole bunch of people including a few minor celebrities got banned after changing their username to "Elon Musk" and tweeting jokes in response to the self proclaimed "free speech absolutist" declaring that unlabelled parodies would be an automatic ban. Apparently even names like "Elon Musk (Parody)" lost posting privileges https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/07/twitter-will-ban-permanently-suspend-impersonator-accounts-elon-musk-says-as-users-take-his-name https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/07/twitter-w...
    - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
      Ah, gotcha. Though, I'm not sure impersonating someone else falls under free speech, right? I mean, if Weird Al did some parody songs and marketed them as the original artists, he'd get sued...unless he made it clear it was parody. Right? I bet you'd get banned for impersonating anyone on twitter, not just Musk. Or was that not happening?
      - notahacker 4y ago
        Parody absolutely does fall under speech, not only being legal and considered valuable for political discourse even in places with strong restrictions on other types of speech but also having explicit case law protecting it under the First Amendment. (Copyright law is a different matter, but nobody is selling their "Elon Musk" accounts). Of course, private websites are perfectly entitled to ban it, just as they were entitled to ban other stuff (there are reasonable grounds for thinking some unlabelled parody may be problematic, but there's a school of thought that racial hatred might actually be worse!). But it's impossible for Elon to credibly masquerade as a "free speech absolutist" whilst simply changing the guidelines to focus bans on stuff that annoys him more than the stuff that used to be banned. I'm sure some other people were banned for unlabelled parodying accounts under the new rule too, but they're busy stopping people using labels as obvious as "Elon Musk (Parody)" too...
      - andrepd 4y ago
        Lmao, no offense but holy damn the mental gymnastics going on there. > Great to see free speech finally thriving on Twitter now that Musk has taken over!! > See but Musk is banning people for making fun of him, even accounts clearly labeled as "parody". > Hmm sure, but then again does parody really fall under free speech? Dear god -- Free speech is free speech. It's not "you're free to say things I like", especially as defined by some slightly-deranged billionaire CEO. Plus, parody is the bread and butter of comedians making fun of politicians since at least ancient rome. For what's worth, Musk had already been notorious before for attempting to silence those critical of him. And let's not even get into the union-busting stuff (free speech to hurl abuse at trans people online, but not to organize collective action!).
  - blipvert 4y ago
    Change my display name to Elon Mask - bam permanent suspension.
    - bufferoverflow 4y ago
      Because that's against of ToS. Impersonating someone.
      - andrepd 4y ago
        "(PARODY) Elon Musk (PARODY)" still gets you banned.
        kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
        If true, I disagree with that policy. But I saw plenty of people doing that who didn't get banned...
      - blipvert 4y ago
        Who is Elon Mask?
- AlbertCory 4y ago
  Getting fired from Twitter employment is not being "banned from Twitter."
  - TaylorAlexander 4y ago
    The person is talking about twitter users being banned from the platform for making fun of Musk. This seems to be happening a lot.
    - bufferoverflow 4y ago
      Who was banned for "making fun of Musk"?
      - SequoiaHope 4y ago
        Well it seems like this article is talking about suspensions, not bans, and the language some of the suspended users used is confusing: https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-users-criticizing-musk-being-banned-told-they-violated-rules-2022-11 https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-users-criticizing-mu... But there was more notably a wave of people being permanently banned for changing their display name to Elon Musk, a previously accepted behavior on Twitter: https://time.com/6229960/twitter-bans-accounts-elon-musk-impersonators/ https://time.com/6229960/twitter-bans-accounts-elon-musk-imp...
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      - zokula 4y ago
andrepd 4y ago
> The only mainstream platform now setting itself up to become the exception to this is the one platform that since a few weeks gets consistently attacked by the establishment: Twitter. The platform where Nazis can say what they want but people mocking Our Lord Musk are suspended? No thanks, I prefer free speech.
blacklion 4y ago
With this new UK legalization it outreach to private communication (messengers, no matter encrypted or not) as well.
matheusmoreira 4y ago
Well, the establishment can go to hell. I'm signing up for a Twitter account again, never thought I'd go back there.

Analemma_ 4y ago

Don’t make me laugh. Have you seen how many people have been banned from Twitter in the last week because they criticized its manchild-in-chief?

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kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
No, I haven't, but I'm interested to hear about it. Got any reading material?
- notahacker 4y ago
  A whole bunch of people including a few minor celebrities got banned after changing their username to "Elon Musk" and tweeting jokes in response to the self proclaimed "free speech absolutist" declaring that unlabelled parodies would be an automatic ban. Apparently even names like "Elon Musk (Parody)" lost posting privileges https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/07/twitter-will-ban-permanently-suspend-impersonator-accounts-elon-musk-says-as-users-take-his-name https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/07/twitter-w...
  - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
    Ah, gotcha. Though, I'm not sure impersonating someone else falls under free speech, right? I mean, if Weird Al did some parody songs and marketed them as the original artists, he'd get sued...unless he made it clear it was parody. Right? I bet you'd get banned for impersonating anyone on twitter, not just Musk. Or was that not happening?
    - notahacker 4y ago
      Parody absolutely does fall under speech, not only being legal and considered valuable for political discourse even in places with strong restrictions on other types of speech but also having explicit case law protecting it under the First Amendment. (Copyright law is a different matter, but nobody is selling their "Elon Musk" accounts). Of course, private websites are perfectly entitled to ban it, just as they were entitled to ban other stuff (there are reasonable grounds for thinking some unlabelled parody may be problematic, but there's a school of thought that racial hatred might actually be worse!). But it's impossible for Elon to credibly masquerade as a "free speech absolutist" whilst simply changing the guidelines to focus bans on stuff that annoys him more than the stuff that used to be banned. I'm sure some other people were banned for unlabelled parodying accounts under the new rule too, but they're busy stopping people using labels as obvious as "Elon Musk (Parody)" too...
    - andrepd 4y ago
      Lmao, no offense but holy damn the mental gymnastics going on there. > Great to see free speech finally thriving on Twitter now that Musk has taken over!! > See but Musk is banning people for making fun of him, even accounts clearly labeled as "parody". > Hmm sure, but then again does parody really fall under free speech? Dear god -- Free speech is free speech. It's not "you're free to say things I like", especially as defined by some slightly-deranged billionaire CEO. Plus, parody is the bread and butter of comedians making fun of politicians since at least ancient rome. For what's worth, Musk had already been notorious before for attempting to silence those critical of him. And let's not even get into the union-busting stuff (free speech to hurl abuse at trans people online, but not to organize collective action!).
- blipvert 4y ago
  Change my display name to Elon Mask - bam permanent suspension.
  - bufferoverflow 4y ago
    Because that's against of ToS. Impersonating someone.
    - andrepd 4y ago
      "(PARODY) Elon Musk (PARODY)" still gets you banned.
      - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
        If true, I disagree with that policy. But I saw plenty of people doing that who didn't get banned...
    - blipvert 4y ago
      Who is Elon Mask?
AlbertCory 4y ago
Getting fired from Twitter employment is not being "banned from Twitter."
- TaylorAlexander 4y ago
  The person is talking about twitter users being banned from the platform for making fun of Musk. This seems to be happening a lot.
  - bufferoverflow 4y ago
    Who was banned for "making fun of Musk"?
    - SequoiaHope 4y ago
      Well it seems like this article is talking about suspensions, not bans, and the language some of the suspended users used is confusing: https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-users-criticizing-musk-being-banned-told-they-violated-rules-2022-11 https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-users-criticizing-mu... But there was more notably a wave of people being permanently banned for changing their display name to Elon Musk, a previously accepted behavior on Twitter: https://time.com/6229960/twitter-bans-accounts-elon-musk-impersonators/ https://time.com/6229960/twitter-bans-accounts-elon-musk-imp...
      - bufferoverflow 4y ago
    - zokula 4y ago

andrepd 4y ago

> The only mainstream platform now setting itself up to become the exception to this is the one platform that since a few weeks gets consistently attacked by the establishment: Twitter. The platform where Nazis can say what they want but people mocking Our Lord Musk are suspended? No thanks, I prefer free speech.

blacklion 4y ago

With this new UK legalization it outreach to private communication (messengers, no matter encrypted or not) as well.

matheusmoreira 4y ago

Well, the establishment can go to hell. I'm signing up for a Twitter account again, never thought I'd go back there.