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I couldn't disagree more. The response to corona decimated the economy and many businesses. The first priority for life on this planet is to have a decent quali
by xfitm3 4y ago
I couldn't disagree more. The response to corona decimated the economy and many businesses. The first priority for life on this planet is to have a decent quality of life. Not being able to afford food or other essentials is hardly a noble objective.
- iudqnolq 4y ago> The first priority for life on this planet is to have a decent quality of life. Yes. Unfortunately, you can't have a decent quality of life without a quality environment to live in.
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- MrBuddyCasino 4y agoWhat if the downsides of decarbonisation outweigh the supposed benefits? Is this even possible in your list of possible outcomes? We have some experience of central state power steering large parts of the economy for The Greater Good.
- orwin 4y agoVery true! The New Deal eased the tensions and permitted a pretty fast recovery, while building most infrastructure modern US depends on, hopefully it will have the same effect.
- ako 4y agoThere’s also a lot of proof of the downsides of not controlling companies: pollution, greed, child labor, unsustainable low wages, etc. Companies don’t care about the population, they’re just there to make money. If we don’t set boundaries the world will be a very ugly place.
- MrBuddyCasino 4y agoI'm 14 and this is profound.
- ako 4y agoImpressed that you signed up for hn at 3 years old.
- waboremo 4y agoWhy does the economy take precedent over life itself?
- p0pcult 4y agoBecause the gigawealthy have captured politics more completely than probably any other time witnessed by those of us currently alive.
- themitigating 4y agoHow is that a reason? I think you're using some form of the argument "Why should I recycle this can if X person has a private jet" The answer is because they are both wrong but you only have control over one.
- soupbowl 4y agoWell we are all going to die from climate change anyways. Some extra corona deaths and working economy seem like a win/win If you are a climate doomer.
- xfitm3 4y agoBecause to survive in life you have to contribute to the survival of others. Anything else is selfish.
- ako 4y agoYou can’t have quality of life if you have no life at all.
- paganel 4y agoHonest question: Where does this apocalyptic attitude come from? Do people believe that they’re going to actually die because of global warming?
- p0pcult 4y agoHonest question: do you not?
- paganel 4y agoNo, not really.
- it_citizen 4y agoI had a good life. I am worried about my children and also trying to think about the billions of people that will see their quality of life significantly degraded. Geopolitical instability due to scarcer resources is certainly going to have a massive negative impact on everyone's life. Just look at how a "small war" in Ukraine is already having real life consequences all around the world. Now, imagine the effects of food and water insecurity across the world. Even Russia was not stupid enough to fully block supplies of wheat leaving Ukraine. And this is only one aspect of how climate change might impact you.
- irrational 4y agoAt my age? Probably not. My kids? Probably.
- V__ 4y agoPeople are already dying because of climate change, what are you talking about?
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- it_citizen 4y agoLook at any recent studies about the projected cost of climate change in the decades to come or read a bit about the geopolitical consequences of what 2 degrees means. The consequences of the response to Corona will seem like a nice a problem to have in comparison. And contrary to a bad economic cycle, once the CO2 is in the atmosphere, there is no fixing it at a meaningful scale.
- swader999 4y agoThe future costs seem pretty small and based on useless models. The costs of curtailing natural gas right now will be evident in real death toll this winter though.
- adgjlsfhk1 4y agoThe future costs start with roughly 1 billion refugees from regions that become either underwater, too hot to live, or too little water to live.
- swader999 4y agoUnderwater when sea level rises less than a foot a century? Get serious. Cold kills way more than heat. Death from extreme weather has been largely mitigated by industrialization and modern technology. Increased food production from more CO2 has helped reduce starvation. Please, show me one genuine climate refugee right now.
- abdullahkhalids 4y agoHere is a nice visualization from the UN from 2021 https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/065d18218b654c798ae9f360a626d903 https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/065d18218b654c798ae9f36... > Over the past decade, weather-related events triggered an average of 21.5 million new displacements each year
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- p0pcult 4y ago>The first priority for life on this planet is to have life Fixed that for you.
- DoneWithAllThat 4y agoClimate doomerism rots the brain.