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A tautology: Adderall improves everyone’s ADHD symptoms! <=> ADHD is just what life feels like when you’re not on speed. Cut down on pot and booze, move your

A tautology: Adderall improves everyone’s ADHD symptoms! <=> ADHD is just what life feels like when you’re not on speed. Cut down on pot and booze, move your body, avoid stressors, and take control of your things in your life. Don’t rationalize/medicalize your way into a permanent cognitive disability. You’re in control!

sitkack 4y ago
Drink some water and go for a run, pull yourself up by your boot straps. Get your life together for gods sake! Those things absolutely help, but your comment is dismissive of real issues that are controlled with medication.
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annie_muss 4y ago
ADHD does real damage to people's lives. Unemployment, divorce, secondary health effects. These are serious issues. The disorder is bit sooner vague feeling of disorganization. Before I was diagnosed I had a good exercise habit, ate well, used a calendar and a todo list and my life was still a mess. After getting diagnosed and medicated I see a steady gradual improvement in all aspects of my life.
waprin 4y ago
5 years ago I would have downvoted you. Based on some unfortunate personal experiences I have to emphatically agree. I would also throw cut down on social media / porn / addictive games as very important if you’re identifiying as ADHD. Amphetamines like Adderall have issues with long term tolerance and can have adverse effects on your cardiac health and mood, both of which I unfortunately experienced. They mostly work by spiking dopamine which there are non pharmaceutical ways to accomplish such as cold water therapy and being more cautious with your baseline dopamine levels (hence the importance of avoiding cheap , easy spikes of those levels). It’s obviously a complex issue still being figured out by scientists but there is a zeitgeist pushing people towards pills as the simple solution when increasingly the science demonstrates that lifestyle change is both more effective long term and lacks adverse side effects. I do think psychiatric meds can be appropriate in extreme circumstances and in cases where they temporarily help people “course-correct” . But people viewing them as a panacea because someone’s having a stimulant honeymoon should dig deeper. Finally, I get ADHD meds advertisement on Facebook constantly. There is simply a financial incentive to push people towards pills over lifestyle change and it’s irresponsible to pretend that doesn’t impact any narratives.
- uberduper 4y ago
  >It’s obviously a complex issue still being figured out by scientists but there is a zeitgeist pushing people towards pills as the simple solution when increasingly the science demonstrates that lifestyle change is both more effective long term and lacks adverse side effects. This is simply a lie.
pc86 4y ago
I think it's very likely ADHD is mis/overdiagnosed, but I'm not a physician so I can't be sure. What I can be sure of is that many people do have a debilitating condition, and these medications help them live a normal life. This "ADHD is fake you're in control just snap out of it" bullshit is offense and idiotic.
friedman23 4y ago
>You’re in control! Use your imagination and have some empathy. Some people are not in control. Like every human characteristic people exist on some part of the bell curve. Telling people they are in control is like telling someone that is on the autism spectrum to just get over it, or telling someone that weighs 130 pounds and is 6 ft tall that they can be as big as Arnold Schwarzenegger with a little hard work and protein.
goodpoint 4y ago
> You’re in control! Good for you. Other people very much aren't, otherwise we would not be talking about mental health.

sitkack 4y ago

Drink some water and go for a run, pull yourself up by your boot straps. Get your life together for gods sake! Those things absolutely help, but your comment is dismissive of real issues that are controlled with medication.

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annie_muss 4y ago

ADHD does real damage to people's lives. Unemployment, divorce, secondary health effects. These are serious issues. The disorder is bit sooner vague feeling of disorganization. Before I was diagnosed I had a good exercise habit, ate well, used a calendar and a todo list and my life was still a mess. After getting diagnosed and medicated I see a steady gradual improvement in all aspects of my life.

waprin 4y ago

5 years ago I would have downvoted you. Based on some unfortunate personal experiences I have to emphatically agree. I would also throw cut down on social media / porn / addictive games as very important if you’re identifiying as ADHD. Amphetamines like Adderall have issues with long term tolerance and can have adverse effects on your cardiac health and mood, both of which I unfortunately experienced. They mostly work by spiking dopamine which there are non pharmaceutical ways to accomplish such as cold water therapy and being more cautious with your baseline dopamine levels (hence the importance of avoiding cheap , easy spikes of those levels). It’s obviously a complex issue still being figured out by scientists but there is a zeitgeist pushing people towards pills as the simple solution when increasingly the science demonstrates that lifestyle change is both more effective long term and lacks adverse side effects. I do think psychiatric meds can be appropriate in extreme circumstances and in cases where they temporarily help people “course-correct” . But people viewing them as a panacea because someone’s having a stimulant honeymoon should dig deeper. Finally, I get ADHD meds advertisement on Facebook constantly. There is simply a financial incentive to push people towards pills over lifestyle change and it’s irresponsible to pretend that doesn’t impact any narratives.

uberduper 4y ago
>It’s obviously a complex issue still being figured out by scientists but there is a zeitgeist pushing people towards pills as the simple solution when increasingly the science demonstrates that lifestyle change is both more effective long term and lacks adverse side effects. This is simply a lie.

pc86 4y ago

I think it's very likely ADHD is mis/overdiagnosed, but I'm not a physician so I can't be sure. What I can be sure of is that many people do have a debilitating condition, and these medications help them live a normal life. This "ADHD is fake you're in control just snap out of it" bullshit is offense and idiotic.

friedman23 4y ago

>You’re in control! Use your imagination and have some empathy. Some people are not in control. Like every human characteristic people exist on some part of the bell curve. Telling people they are in control is like telling someone that is on the autism spectrum to just get over it, or telling someone that weighs 130 pounds and is 6 ft tall that they can be as big as Arnold Schwarzenegger with a little hard work and protein.

goodpoint 4y ago

> You’re in control! Good for you. Other people very much aren't, otherwise we would not be talking about mental health.