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Agreed. I program in CL and other languages too. I find Java developers tend to have a stronger understanding of OOP and that might be behind your insight. For

• aidenn0 4y ago
  > CLOS itself is great, however the decoupling of data and methods is something at times I find leads to harder to understand code. I think that might be familiarity rather than anything fundamental. I often find the coupling of data and methods to lead to harder to understand code; if I want to define a new method on an object in Java, I have to either subclass it or modify the class itself. Even if the method is ancillary to the core functionality of the class. That seems strange to me.
  • andrekandre 4y ago
    > I want to define a new method on an object in Java, I have to either subclass it or modify the class itself. maybe what you are looking for is extension methods? objective-c/swift/kotlin/c# all support them to varying degrees (but sadly not java afaik)
    • aidenn0 4y ago
      Yes, those are a huge improvement over the Java/C++ way. I cant tell if in a typical implementation all extension methods share the same namespace though (i.e. if the language has the concept of a "namespace" can one safely define two different extension methods on the same object in two different namespaces; this is trivial in CLOS since methods are not namesepaced to objects in any manner). A quick read of the wikipedia article makes it look like in C# you can do this, but not in Ruby.