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Hopefully Disney will cut the political sermon from the next movies. I've just watched "Eternals" and couldn't believe it's a Disney movie.
by themihai 4y ago
Hopefully Disney will cut the political sermon from the next movies. I've just watched "Eternals" and couldn't believe it's a Disney movie.
- cocacola1 4y agoEternals was in production since 2018. Its filming was mostly complete by February 2020, when Chapek took over. It’s also Marvel and under Feige’s purview.
- SanjayMehta 4y agoWe used to look forward to Disney releases but something happened around 2015 which made them sanctimonious and forgettable.
- matt-attack 4y agoFrozen, Coco, Moana, snd Encanto come to mind as enjoyable non-franchise originals with excellent, lasting music.
- InTheArena 4y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lasseter https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lasseter
- InTheArena 4y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lasseter https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lasseter
- throw_m239339 4y ago> Hopefully Disney will cut the political sermon from the next movies. I've just watched "Eternals" and couldn't believe it's a Disney movie. I'm not sure why you expect Iger to do that, he is 100% responsible for Disney movies and animations cultural shift and decided that one group of people are the audience they want to focus on and pander to, probably because it makes them more money than the alternative. Purely a profit driven decision. This is just the way it is, at the end of the day, money talks. Chapek is no different, but "optics" were against him as he mishandled the PR aspect of the pandering. That kind of preachiness is there to stay, at least until there is yet another cultural paradigm shift.
- tashi 4y agoWhat political sermon? Do you just mean the diversity of the cast and crew, or did you find something in the story itself that sent a more coherent political message than, "If your boss tells you to blow up the world, say no."
- astrange 4y agoEternals introduces the first gay character in the MCU but then makes him responsible for nuking Hiroshima. I thought that was very centrist of it.
- tashi 4y agoWell, he just introduces rudimentary technology to ancient humans and then stands back for thousands of years to watch it evolve. He feels guilty that the chain of technological progress eventually leads to Hiroshima, but I don't think everybody would agree that it's his responsibility.
- wilg 4y agoI watched it and genuinely cannot remember either of these things happening. It was a very bad movie.
- AzzieElbab 4y agoYou should watch she-hulk. That show is something, Disney is not just wasting money, they are burning bridges along with the rest of the real estate that they bought.
- dagmx 4y agoThat’s quite subjective. I thought She-Hulk was pretty entertaining, and actually really clever and subversive in its writing. You may however not be the target demographic for it, which is fine, but it’s important to note it isn’t just firing into a void for no reason.
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- AzzieElbab 4y agoPersonally I am not the right demographic for marvel movies, period. My marvel viewing experience is driven by my kids. However, it is very hard for me to envision large group of people(let alone a whole demographic) that could truly enjoy latest marvel if those shows/films were not backed by established characters/franchise
- dagmx 4y agoI’m not sure what your point is because all the marvel films are backed by established characters from an established franchise. The new shows also have had decent viewership numbers too even when introducing completely new characters or scenarios.
- AzzieElbab 4y agoInteresting, how would you define your demographic? I hated the show, my teens hated the show, but we couldn’t help finishing it.
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- kredd 4y agoWhat was the political sermon in “Eternals”?
- khazhoux 4y agoI don't know about the "political" part, but as a parent to young kids, I'm a bit frustrated that they mix up the age ratings throughout the Marvel franchise. Eternals has a scene with two characters having sex on a beach. Spider Man Homecoming has a gag where Ned says he's watching porn on his laptop. In She Hulk, a key plot point is she's filmed having sex and the video is then broadcast. If they want to make Marvel for teens and older, then by all means. But they clearly market the franchise to the under-10 crowd, and the content above was not subtle. It wasn't written to go over the little ones' heads... it's in their face.
- ipv6ipv4 4y agoI'm always surprised that a smidge of sex, that would probably completely fly over the head of a child anyway, is more concerning than the glorified extreme non-stop violence of these films.
- themihai 4y agoI really doubt it. Source: I was a kid. Sex scenes definitely did not fly over. It was something I did not understand and somehow affected my behaviour more than violence between robots.
- khazhoux 4y agoBe that as it may, the violence is inherently part of every single Marvel movie. Parents who object to violence in movies would know to not show them to their kids. But the sexual content is unexpected and random. She Hulk is "hulk for girls"... and one episode is about revenge porn. As a parent, that's pretty awkward. Note that my complaint isn't about movies having sexual content. It's that 95% of Marvel movies don't have overtly sexual references, and then a couple suddenly do, within the same sub-franchise. The right way to go is like Jessica Jones (on Netflix), which was a Marvel series but it was very clearly marketed for adults.
- dagmx 4y agoShe-Hulk is “hulk for everyone” and is also clearly targeted at adults. This is clear because it’s rated TV-14 but sets the tone pretty early that it’s not a children focused show. That the protagonist is a woman doesn’t mean it’s for girls btw. If you’re looking for a more child focused Marvel series with a female protagonist, Ms.Marvel would be it. The Marvel episodic content is (with the exception of Falcon and the Winter Soldier) is a lot more diverse in style content than the films, and unapologetically so. This is where Marvel is experimenting and providing a more varied range of content.
- scarface74 4y agoYou realize that comics have always been political? The entire premise of the XMen was an allegory to civil rights.
- poisonarena 4y agoNo, it was about superhuman mutants with powers fighting each other and it is for 7-13 year boys.
- cwillu 4y agoLiterally what “an allegory” means. “The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe” is a story about talking magical animals, and is for kids. And therefore obviously has no hidden motives behind the story.
- DaedPsyker 4y agoDoes a sermon instantly make it bad? Is Captain America: Winter Soldier a sermon? To me its a pretty clear stance against drone strikes and general over-securitizing(?) Of society, and I thought that was fantastic movie and message. Let's go further back to any of the old Disney films, came from fables, moral tales of old. In fact what piece of media outside of the most boring and bland ever are not a tale to learn, think or expand your thoughts? Is that not a sermon?
- themihai 4y ago>> Does a sermon instantly make it bad? I think it does when it's "in your face" like the latest movies. It feels like a kind of propaganda that I'm not interested in. I just want to enjoy my time and watch a f*** good and entertaining movie not a jehovah witness sermon or a diversity soup.
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