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Directly from the website operator: "I am Joerg Arnu, owner and webmaster of the Dreamland Resort web site (www.DreamlandResort.com). The subject of the web si
by shiftpgdn 4y ago
Directly from the website operator:
"I am Joerg Arnu, owner and webmaster of the Dreamland Resort web site (www.DreamlandResort.com). The subject of the web site is Area 51. I have operated that web site since 1999.
Last week Thursday (11/3/22) in the early morning my homes in Rachel (just outside of Area 51) and in Las Vegas were searched by a joint force of FBI and AF OSI. This happened without any warning. The doors were broken open and I in Rachel and my girlfriend in our Las Vegas home were detained and treated in the most disrespectful way. My girlfriend was led out into the street barefoot and only in her underwear in full view of our neighbors; I was led outside, handcuffed and only in t-shirt and sweats in sub-freezing temperatures.
Each home was searched by 15-20 agents in full riot gear, causing further damage in both homes besides the broken front doors. Despite my repeated requests for an explanation, I was only told that the search was related to images posted on my Area 51 web site.
I was very surprised how forceful the search warrant was executed and how rough we, both unarmed senior citizens, were treated. I have to believe that someone gave them bad information about us. All my laptops, phones, backup drives, camera gear and my drone were seized. With the equipment I lost all my medical records, financial and tax records, passwords, email and phone contacts, photos etc. Even my phone was taken, leaving me in Rachel with two broken doors and no way to communicate or call for help.
Not counting my expected legal expenses my losses so far include over $20k in equipment taken and over $5k in damage.
There are 40 pages missing from the search warrant I received and the case records are sealed. So, I cannot look up the reason for the search and I do not want to speculate. I left several messages with the FBI agent in charge but he has not returned any of my calls. At this point I have no choice but to take legal action to try and get my equipment back and to seek reimbursement for the damage.
In an effort to defuse the situation I have removed some material from my Dreamland Resort web site although I believe that it was legally obtained and legal to publish. I am not sharing anything on my web site that cannot be found on dozens of other web sites and news outlet publications. Considering how this went down I have no intention of removing any more material unless ordered to do so by a federal judge.
I believe the search, executed with completely unnecessary force by overzealous government agents was meant as a message to silence the Area 51 research community. The question now is: How far will they go?
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This should serve as a gentle reminder that the police, the FBI, and other law enforcement are not your friends and that you should run encryption on all of your devices.
- jakear 4y agoThe gentle reminder is to have offsite backups of important personal documents, especially when "taunting" the government.
- mindslight 4y agoEven giving the government the benefit of the doubt with regards to some legitimate security interest in what this guy may have done, the process where the police just bust up your home and destroy your digital life needs to be drastically reformed. At the minimum, any damage caused should be automatically compensated, with the only exception being if the people residing in the structure fight back. This includes paying for replacement digital devices to make up for the ones that were physically taken rather than just having their storage copied. Furthermore, there should be punitive damages for individual agents who needlessly traumatize people, such as preventing them from getting dressed.
- layer8 4y agoWhile I agree, you should also always maintain backups of your data.
- mindslight 4y agoI agree that you should maintain backups, but I wasn't focused on the data loss specifically. Rather even if you do have backups, your computing devices/infrastructure being taken is its own disruption. Also backups make data loss less likely but don't eliminate the chance. The FBI can still raid your house, your friend's house, your safe deposit box, and freeze your cloud storages all at the same time.
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- marmetio 4y ago> In an effort to defuse the situation Why would he do that? He was already searched, they didn't seize the website, and they didn't order him to do anything. Worst-case is they eventually do, charge him, and use that as evidence he knew he was breaking the law. Best case is ... nothing? It's the government, not a friend he's in a tiff with. I don't see how the concept of "defuse" applies here.