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All these people are making 200k a year and will have no problem finding another job.
by polote 4y ago
All these people are making 200k a year and will have no problem finding another job.
- throwawaytwit9 4y agoThat’s not the point. Dignity and respect. Going in a different direction? Fine. Make cuts. But, no one deserves to be treated as disposable playthings. Zero communication and unreasonable demands create anxiety. Contrast this to stripe. I fail to see how one’s income determines the respect they should receive.
- sam_lowry_ 4y agoIn a recent Tweet reply, Elon says that there are 10 people managing for 1 person coding. Based on my experience in a 2nd tier SV company I believe this to be true
- LightG 4y ago
- UncleMeat 4y agoSo it sounds like exactly zero people who have committed code recently will be fired, right?
- jesuscript 4y agoDepends on how Caligula feels next week.
- boc 4y agoRight but the people who bring in the money (advertising sales) probably got axed because they don’t write code.
- sam_lowry_ 4y agoRightfully so, because 8€/month for blue stamp needs neither.
- Macha 4y agoAs I saw pointed out elsewhere, with a headcount of only engineers and these alleged 10 managers per engineers, this would leave twitter with like 630 engineers and 6300 managers which is a clearly a drastic underestimation of the number of engineers and that's before you count roles like sales, support, etc. Don't take everything Elon tweets at face value
- talaketu 4y agohttps://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586686935518498816 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586686935518498816 > There seem to be 10 people "managing" for every one person coding Take this literally, not as as a ration. - each SWE in a product team has an EM, Dir Eng, VP Eng, PM, Director Product, VP Product, ...
- Macha 4y agoSure, but that team may have N engineers and those VPs may have N teams, so that doesn't seem so ludicrous for a 7000 person company. Or even 3500 person company by EOD. Certainly in my company there's about a 200:1 engineer:VP engineering ratio, so pointing out every engineer reports to a VP is kind of a meaningless statement
- ghaff 4y agoAnd there are also finance people, HR people, sales, etc. people. The company is far from entirely engineers, their managers, and the managers of their managers.
- cjrp 4y agoSo there's overlap between every developer
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- sam_lowry_ 4y ago630 coders is quite a lot for what Twitter does. They do not own datacenters, AFAIK.
- oxfordmale 4y agoIt is still never nice to lose your job, especially if you have a mortgage matching based on your 200K salary.
- woofyman 4y agoSmart people live below their means.
- throwawaytwit9 4y agoYeah right. Because smart people can always control the circumstances of their life like an illness, elder care, affordable housing, change in market conditions, etc.
- thatfrenchguy 4y agoDoesn’t really matter when you have any mortgage or rent to house your family. It’s fine when you’re 22, less fine when you’re 42.
- exitb 4y agoLike Elon Musk.
- philliphaydon 4y agoThe majority of people who earn more spend more.
- badpun 4y ago> Smart people live below their means. > The majority of people who earn more spend more. You don't need a Prolog engine to compute the conclusion...
- windmaster 4y ago:-)
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- taurath 4y agoMany will be fine, there also may be many who will not. Not everyone makes that much at twitter, not everyone is in a role that is competitive right now. The ones who make the least are the ones who will suffer the most. Stop being callous.
- throwaway4aday 4y agoThe ones who make the least will also be in the most commonly available roles so they too should have no trouble finding a job elsewhere.
- nerdawson 4y ago6 months ago I would have agreed but it seems like the landscape has changed radically since then.
- ghaff 4y agoEven leaving aside that a lot of these people are not engineers but customer support, finance, sales, etc. even developer hires in the current market are very measured and selective at most companies. First of all, probably nothing will move forward until after the holidays. It's not unreasonably pessimistic to think that it may take 6 months or more for someone to get a new position even as a developer.