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If it works for you, why would you migrate to a different product with features or performance outside of your needs? We are so deep into a disposable society t
by SentientAtom 4y ago
If it works for you, why would you migrate to a different product with features or performance outside of your needs? We are so deep into a disposable society that we eagerly await the NEXT BIG THING (TM) without ever evaluating what our need consists of or whether we have any need for an upgrade to begin with.
- dpcx 4y agoWell, the threat of the service going away is a pretty big one. Until we have devices that can work from our own hosted systems, this will always be a concern.
- fsflover 4y ago> Until we have devices that can work from our own hosted systems We already do: https://pine64.org/pinetime https://pine64.org/pinetime.
- Gigachad 4y agoThe pebble was a bit of a gimmick. It was the start of the future but on its own it was kind of worse than a regular watch. It looked ugly, had a terrible screen, didn’t have any of the stuff you mostly do with a smartwatch now. And half the features no longer work.
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- yonaguska 4y agoAnd it had an insanely long battery life, I could respond to, and read text messages without opening my phone. It didn't have unnecessary stuff- it was simple and met my watch needs. I don't have a smartwatch now, because I'm not interested in having yet another computer on my wrist. I guess I've just decided to settle for a gimmicky automatic watch, it doesn't even have an alarm! And it dies if I stop using it for a few days.
- robertlagrant 4y agoYeah I really liked mine. Still have it, I just don't get on with wearing any watch that much. I like how it had voice commands way back when.
- benj111 4y ago>And it had an insanely long battery life. Is there a term for complementing something that is objectively much worse than what came before only because it's better than what we have now. Stockholm syndrome? Watch batteries used to last month's/ years / didn't need batteries at all. It's the same with phones, they used to last a week easily, now we get excited when they last 2 days.
- MereInterest 4y agoI don't know of any official name, but it would be adjacent to the Rachet Effect [0]. Where the Rachet Effect is a steady increase in expectations, rather than a steady decrease, they both derive from the same limited time frame used for comparisons. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet_effect
- yonaguska 4y agoFor me, I didn't wear watches before. Pebble got me into it. And now I wear watches with no batteries, so maybe reverse Stockholm syndrome? I loved my Garmin, but I hated the notifications. And I couldn't disable the fitness related notifications. I'm at a point where I hate all notifications though, and have them only enabled for work and my wife. Everyone/everything else can wait.
- amelius 4y agoTrue. But perhaps 16k people sold their Pebble because they wanted a shiny new watch, and they were bought by 16k other people who can't afford that new watch.
- Cthulhu_ 4y agosort-of-smart watch, you can get watches that tell the time for $5 or less.
- stinkytaco 4y agoI'm not sure why that's relevant. You can buy a shirt that covers your body for $5, but most of us are wearing something more expensive for a variety of reasons. If you are wearing a pebble, you probably want the sort of smart features.
- darau1 4y agoI know a guy that bought every new Samsung flagship device as soon as they hit stores. He said he just has to upgrade.
- guerrilla 4y agoI would hate it if everyone (or even many people) did this, but it's nice to know someone outside of Samsung has tried them all, but then again, I guess you wouldn't ncessarily get very neutral reviews from such a person.
- darau1 4y agoWell, I doubt he's had a bad experience because I don't think he ever has one long enough for it to start showing signs of age.
- aliqot 4y agoI wonder sometimes how can people reconcile buying a new X every Y and still be concerned about human rights and the environment, etc.
- biftek 4y agoBecause it's not an individuals buying decisions harming those things? Those are the result of governments and corporations. I'm not going to buy a new phone today and it sounds like you probably won't either, I'll check back in tomorrow and see how the environment is doing!
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- jasonlotito 4y agoI wonder sometimes how can people reconcile buying a new X ever and still be concerned about human rights and the environment, etc.
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- GuB-42 4y ago- Parts breaking that can't be easily replaced. In particular Li-ion batteries have a limited lifespan, both in time and in number of cycles. - Security: hackers constantly find new vulnerabilities. And depending on the kind of device, it can be a big deal. - Services shutting down, it can be direct (if the device connects to the internet), or indirect (if some "companion app" is no longer available). - Or just plain obsolescence. The device may be incompatible with modern standards, irrelevant, unfashionable, etc...
- ZaoLahma 4y agoI bought a Big Brand Flagship Phone (tm), the Samsung Galaxy S9, in 2018. They stopped upgrading the OS with new functionality in 2020 only two years after its release, and this year they stopped providing security updates! Considering how much functionality and information is on that phone that could affect my life in absolutely fantastically negative ways if it was hacked (online accounts including owned licenses for software, banking), I have little choice but to buy a new phone now, even though the hardware is more than adequate for my needs and even though new phones don't really do much more much better. Planned obsolescence, or whatever you prefer to call it, really drives this behaviour.
- bombcar 4y agoThis alone is a huge reason that the iPhone is doing well - iOS 16 still runs on the 8 and iOS 15 releases are still getting patches: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/supported-models-iphe3fa5df43/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/supported-models-iphe... https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213490 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213490
- olau 4y agoInteresting perspective. I have an iPad 3rd generation where Apple doesn't allow OS updates and doesn't allow installing a non-Apple browser engine. So it's essentially getting bricked as web sites start relying on features not implemented in the ancient Safari engine on it. Twitter, for instance, refuses to load. Youtube does work okayish, as long as you don't log in. Once it's completely bricked, I'm throwing it out and not getting anything with an Apple logo. Unless something like the EU manages to make them open up.
- o10449366 4y agoAgree. I'm still using the original iphone SE from 2016. I've replaced the battery four or five times and see no reason to upgrade, even though it's officially out of support now. Funnily, when I meet people now with the latest and greatest iphone and they see my old phone they often express they wish they still had one of them.
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