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A DM is reasonable. Calling someone out in public like that is childish.

JimDabell 4y ago
There aren‘t any DMs on Hacker News, and if he didn’t post that comment I would have thought it was a disinterested commenter recommending something they had used, not somebody who works on the project. The cultural norm here is to disclose when you are recommending your own product and it’s not childish to point out when people fail to do that, it’s reinforcing that cultural norm.
- hatware 4y ago
  > There aren‘t any DMs on Hacker News Good thing they... (checks notes) ...know exactly who made the post and can reach out to them on LinkedIn or email them. Cultural norms are reinforced by good examples, there's nothing good about snippy public comments. Reaching out to them privately isn't hard, and, dare I say it: is more inclusive. I don't think I need to explain the origin of the word assume.
  - Akronymus 4y ago
    > , there's nothing good about snippy public comments. It didn't seem snippy to me. "Why aren't you disclosing your ties" would be IMO. The message that was actually posted seemed quite diplomatic.
    - hatware 4y ago
      > seemed quite diplomatic Turns out it is more diplomatic to reach out to someone privately first. God forbid we set a better example than the one being set.
      - dastbe 4y ago
        > Turns out it is more diplomatic to reach out to someone privately first. Why
        hatware 4y ago
        If we are not all polite, we all have to be rude. Be polite.
        dastbe 4y ago
        > Be polite. Could you explain how messaging in private is more polite?
        hatware 4y ago
        It's impolite to assume on someone's behalf in public. Could you explain how messaging in private is so hard to do if you have no problem making the comment in public...? You seem to have a really hard time grasping that this entire comment thread we are part of wouldn't exist if OP had reached out about their concerns in private.
        metadat 4y ago
        And yet you haven't sent me any emails, hatware. My door is always open, why not practice what you preach rather than be repeatedly harsh and make a scene over existing community norms? Crowley subsequently disclosed the affiliation, we're good. Maybe you're newer here; It's a courteous social more of the HN community to be actively transparent about potential conflicts of interest. I'm actually a fan of Crowley, he's got quite a brain. Best wishes, MD
        hatware 4y ago
        You get what you give. I don't think I need to send emails to the one who has no problem calling others out in public. It's pretty simple, I requested that concerns about conflict of interest are taken offline. But, here you are, making snide remarks in public at another person. Zero for two. For what it's worth, I spoke up on this because I would be quite annoyed if someone did not give me the courtesy of correcting a mistake in private before broadcasting publicly about it. It doesn't matter if it comes from a stranger or a trusted friend. I can tell you aren't picking this up, but I'm happy to explain it ad nauseum so you can be a better individual to your peers. >It's a courteous social more of the HN community From what I can tell, the "norm" is to gang up on new folks without thinking critically about it. It's reddit with less complexity and more ego. You get what you give. > why not practice what you preach From your profile: "I subscribe to the ideology of live and let live." ...
  - JimDabell 4y ago
    > Good thing they... (checks notes) ...know exactly who made the post and can reach out to them on LinkedIn or email them. Which I wouldn’t see. I’m glad they posted the comment.
    - hatware 4y ago
      You're only glad because they assumed correctly. Kind of sad you're failing to recognize this.

There aren‘t any DMs on Hacker News, and if he didn’t post that comment I would have thought it was a disinterested commenter recommending something they had used, not somebody who works on the project. The cultural norm here is to disclose when you are recommending your own product and it’s not childish to point out when people fail to do that, it’s reinforcing that cultural norm.

hatware 4y ago
> There aren‘t any DMs on Hacker News Good thing they... (checks notes) ...know exactly who made the post and can reach out to them on LinkedIn or email them. Cultural norms are reinforced by good examples, there's nothing good about snippy public comments. Reaching out to them privately isn't hard, and, dare I say it: is more inclusive. I don't think I need to explain the origin of the word assume.
- Akronymus 4y ago
  > , there's nothing good about snippy public comments. It didn't seem snippy to me. "Why aren't you disclosing your ties" would be IMO. The message that was actually posted seemed quite diplomatic.
  - hatware 4y ago
    > seemed quite diplomatic Turns out it is more diplomatic to reach out to someone privately first. God forbid we set a better example than the one being set.
    - dastbe 4y ago
      > Turns out it is more diplomatic to reach out to someone privately first. Why
      - hatware 4y ago
        If we are not all polite, we all have to be rude. Be polite.
        dastbe 4y ago
        > Be polite. Could you explain how messaging in private is more polite?
        hatware 4y ago
        It's impolite to assume on someone's behalf in public. Could you explain how messaging in private is so hard to do if you have no problem making the comment in public...? You seem to have a really hard time grasping that this entire comment thread we are part of wouldn't exist if OP had reached out about their concerns in private.
        metadat 4y ago
        And yet you haven't sent me any emails, hatware. My door is always open, why not practice what you preach rather than be repeatedly harsh and make a scene over existing community norms? Crowley subsequently disclosed the affiliation, we're good. Maybe you're newer here; It's a courteous social more of the HN community to be actively transparent about potential conflicts of interest. I'm actually a fan of Crowley, he's got quite a brain. Best wishes, MD
        hatware 4y ago
        You get what you give. I don't think I need to send emails to the one who has no problem calling others out in public. It's pretty simple, I requested that concerns about conflict of interest are taken offline. But, here you are, making snide remarks in public at another person. Zero for two. For what it's worth, I spoke up on this because I would be quite annoyed if someone did not give me the courtesy of correcting a mistake in private before broadcasting publicly about it. It doesn't matter if it comes from a stranger or a trusted friend. I can tell you aren't picking this up, but I'm happy to explain it ad nauseum so you can be a better individual to your peers. >It's a courteous social more of the HN community From what I can tell, the "norm" is to gang up on new folks without thinking critically about it. It's reddit with less complexity and more ego. You get what you give. > why not practice what you preach From your profile: "I subscribe to the ideology of live and let live." ...
- JimDabell 4y ago
  > Good thing they... (checks notes) ...know exactly who made the post and can reach out to them on LinkedIn or email them. Which I wouldn’t see. I’m glad they posted the comment.
  - hatware 4y ago
    You're only glad because they assumed correctly. Kind of sad you're failing to recognize this.