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What a weird comment.

by hatware 4y ago

abrookewood 4y ago
Kind of .. I think it's good that people are encouraged to disclose their interests on HN as a matter of course.
- hatware 4y ago
  A DM is reasonable. Calling someone out in public like that is childish.
  - JimDabell 4y ago
    There aren‘t any DMs on Hacker News, and if he didn’t post that comment I would have thought it was a disinterested commenter recommending something they had used, not somebody who works on the project. The cultural norm here is to disclose when you are recommending your own product and it’s not childish to point out when people fail to do that, it’s reinforcing that cultural norm.
    - hatware 4y ago
      > There aren‘t any DMs on Hacker News Good thing they... (checks notes) ...know exactly who made the post and can reach out to them on LinkedIn or email them. Cultural norms are reinforced by good examples, there's nothing good about snippy public comments. Reaching out to them privately isn't hard, and, dare I say it: is more inclusive. I don't think I need to explain the origin of the word assume.
      - Akronymus 4y ago
        > , there's nothing good about snippy public comments. It didn't seem snippy to me. "Why aren't you disclosing your ties" would be IMO. The message that was actually posted seemed quite diplomatic.
        hatware 4y ago
        > seemed quite diplomatic Turns out it is more diplomatic to reach out to someone privately first. God forbid we set a better example than the one being set.
        dastbe 4y ago
        > Turns out it is more diplomatic to reach out to someone privately first. Why
        hatware 4y ago
        If we are not all polite, we all have to be rude. Be polite.
        dastbe 4y ago
        > Be polite. Could you explain how messaging in private is more polite?
        hatware 4y ago
        It's impolite to assume on someone's behalf in public. Could you explain how messaging in private is so hard to do if you have no problem making the comment in public...? You seem to have a really hard time grasping that this entire comment thread we are part of wouldn't exist if OP had reached out about their concerns in private.
        metadat 4y ago
        And yet you haven't sent me any emails, hatware. My door is always open, why not practice what you preach rather than be repeatedly harsh and make a scene over existing community norms? Crowley subsequently disclosed the affiliation, we're good. Maybe you're newer here; It's a courteous social more of the HN community to be actively transparent about potential conflicts of interest. I'm actually a fan of Crowley, he's got quite a brain. Best wishes, MD
      - JimDabell 4y ago
        > Good thing they... (checks notes) ...know exactly who made the post and can reach out to them on LinkedIn or email them. Which I wouldn’t see. I’m glad they posted the comment.
        hatware 4y ago
        You're only glad because they assumed correctly. Kind of sad you're failing to recognize this.
- PebblesHD 4y ago
  If they had disclosed their involvement in their profile at least I could give them the benefit of the doubt but in this case, like the other commenters, I assumed he had used the tool as a customer and had a positive experience, not that he was literally the founder of the group making the tool. That’s not to say his opinion is not wanted, just that the potential bias should be made transparent.
  - hatware 4y ago
    It's a single comment on one hackernews thread that is already buried. You're bikeshedding.
porker 4y ago
Having people disclose if they work for/have a vested interest in what they recommend sets HN apart from other communities. It gives me a bit more confidence that I can trust what people recommend here and isn't just hidden marketing.

What a weird comment.

abrookewood 4y ago

Kind of .. I think it's good that people are encouraged to disclose their interests on HN as a matter of course.

hatware 4y ago
A DM is reasonable. Calling someone out in public like that is childish.
- JimDabell 4y ago
  There aren‘t any DMs on Hacker News, and if he didn’t post that comment I would have thought it was a disinterested commenter recommending something they had used, not somebody who works on the project. The cultural norm here is to disclose when you are recommending your own product and it’s not childish to point out when people fail to do that, it’s reinforcing that cultural norm.
  - hatware 4y ago
    > There aren‘t any DMs on Hacker News Good thing they... (checks notes) ...know exactly who made the post and can reach out to them on LinkedIn or email them. Cultural norms are reinforced by good examples, there's nothing good about snippy public comments. Reaching out to them privately isn't hard, and, dare I say it: is more inclusive. I don't think I need to explain the origin of the word assume.
    - Akronymus 4y ago
      > , there's nothing good about snippy public comments. It didn't seem snippy to me. "Why aren't you disclosing your ties" would be IMO. The message that was actually posted seemed quite diplomatic.
      - hatware 4y ago
        > seemed quite diplomatic Turns out it is more diplomatic to reach out to someone privately first. God forbid we set a better example than the one being set.
        dastbe 4y ago
        > Turns out it is more diplomatic to reach out to someone privately first. Why
        hatware 4y ago
        If we are not all polite, we all have to be rude. Be polite.
        dastbe 4y ago
        > Be polite. Could you explain how messaging in private is more polite?
        hatware 4y ago
        It's impolite to assume on someone's behalf in public. Could you explain how messaging in private is so hard to do if you have no problem making the comment in public...? You seem to have a really hard time grasping that this entire comment thread we are part of wouldn't exist if OP had reached out about their concerns in private.
        metadat 4y ago
        And yet you haven't sent me any emails, hatware. My door is always open, why not practice what you preach rather than be repeatedly harsh and make a scene over existing community norms? Crowley subsequently disclosed the affiliation, we're good. Maybe you're newer here; It's a courteous social more of the HN community to be actively transparent about potential conflicts of interest. I'm actually a fan of Crowley, he's got quite a brain. Best wishes, MD
    - JimDabell 4y ago
      > Good thing they... (checks notes) ...know exactly who made the post and can reach out to them on LinkedIn or email them. Which I wouldn’t see. I’m glad they posted the comment.
      - hatware 4y ago
        You're only glad because they assumed correctly. Kind of sad you're failing to recognize this.
PebblesHD 4y ago
If they had disclosed their involvement in their profile at least I could give them the benefit of the doubt but in this case, like the other commenters, I assumed he had used the tool as a customer and had a positive experience, not that he was literally the founder of the group making the tool. That’s not to say his opinion is not wanted, just that the potential bias should be made transparent.
- hatware 4y ago
  It's a single comment on one hackernews thread that is already buried. You're bikeshedding.

porker 4y ago

Having people disclose if they work for/have a vested interest in what they recommend sets HN apart from other communities. It gives me a bit more confidence that I can trust what people recommend here and isn't just hidden marketing.