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Why do firefighters have no effect on tourism? Without them you can not run a city. Same for many other jobs like garbage collection.
by spaetzleesser 4y ago
Why do firefighters have no effect on tourism? Without them you can not run a city. Same for many other jobs like garbage collection.
- sky_rw 4y agoWell clearly there is an elite class to whom body autonomy is granted, and an underclass who must follow arbitrary and capricious rules. OP appreciates that celebrities and entertainers are our betters and should not be held to the same standard.
- throwawaylinux 4y agoAn attitude which I've found to be curiously pervasive amongst self-proclaimed egalitarians and socialists.
- VagueMag 4y agoFWIW, there was a vocal contingent of Marxists on Twitter who saw the mandates for the erosion of worker power and rights that they were, and vigorously opposed them. Richard Wolff even came around eventually, as well as Jimmy Dore after having his own personal run-in with the nasty side effects which are all too common with these vaccines. Sadly, though, some of the most awful scapegoaters of the unvaccinated were indeed on the "left." Noam Chomsky even said they should be excluded from society completely, and if that meant they couldn't even obtain food, well, that would be their problem.
- jquery 4y ago
- VagueMag 4y agoTried 5 minutes and it just seemed like the usual "Dore had a different provax position and then changed his mind," and "he doesn't read articles with the pro-vaccine gloss which the commentator would consider 'truthful' ". Some "Dore's position is popular and therefore making him money and therefore a grift" thrown in for good measure. Is there some point in the 50 mins where they actually lay out a case that he faked his vaccine reaction?
- jquery 4y agoHe didn’t read the article and point out why he disagreed, he literally misquoted the article (multiple times) to make it seem like it said something it did not. Even if you say “well, that’s just one article” the 50 minute video demonstrates this is a pattern of Dore’s.
- hotpotamus 4y agoI don't think this mandate had much to do with body autonomy, but job autonomy, which yes, rich people have quite a bit more of.
- colinmhayes 4y agoReality is that not letting Kyrie play basketball cost New York millions, and firing a firefighter doesn’t. Tons of people lose their jobs when entertainment acts close because the performers aren’t vaccinated. Money talks, does that mean celebrities should not be held to the same standard? Not really, it just means that holding them to the same standard would cost more than adams was willing to pay, whether it was the right thing to do or not.
- faeriechangling 4y agoYes exactly. You are allowed to infect people with a deadly pandemic if you're rich, but if you're poor you have to risk personal medical consequences or lose your remote job.
- VagueMag 4y ago
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- refurb 4y agoThis is the issue. Politicians claim it about health and saving "grandma", but when the number of dollars get big enough, all that goes out the window. So apparently getting vaccinated is critically important, but not more important than money.
- colinmhayes 4y agoBecause they can be replaced by vaccinated people I guess and if one or two can’t that’s ok because they’ve still got all the other ones. Kyrie and the Yankees can’t be replaced.
- koolba 4y agoI’d be willing to bet I could more easily find a team full of people to swing a bat or throw a ball than a couple thousand people willing and able to rush into a burning building.
- colinmhayes 4y agoCan you get people to pay to watch them?
- vineyardmike 4y ago> Same for many other jobs like garbage collection. Spoken like someone who hasn't been to New York. I love the city, its a fun and vibrant place. But they have some unusual trash policies (primarily they don't have alleys so trash has to be dumped on the main sidewalk) and wherever you go its not uncommon for the sidewalks to be lined with trash waiting for pickup.
- spaetzleesser 4y agoI have been to New York and I have also seen Paris during a strike of garbage collectors. It gets ugly very quickly once collection stops. The number one thing I have noticed in New York was they seem to make trash collection as loud as possible ideally at 3 in the morning :)
- themitigating 4y agoHow would they collect trash efficiently during the day when many streets are packed. Not to mention the extra traffic a slow moving often stopping garbage truck would cause