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Except they don’t because most have onboard wifi now. And most allow Bluetooth headphones, including Lufthansa: Lufthansa: Bluetooth headphones are allowed dur
by spoonalious 4y ago
Except they don’t because most have onboard wifi now. And most allow Bluetooth headphones, including Lufthansa:
Lufthansa: Bluetooth headphones are allowed during every part of the flight.
- gbin 4y agoSo clearly this is again an airline using a rule as a "proxy" for something else they want. Like no chewing tobacco... Yeah it is gross but it is probably not a safety issue.
- mutt2016 4y agoFlying is among the most dreadful activities I do. The whole thing is unsettling from the moment I pull up to the airport. This is one of many absolutely ridiculous things the airline industry has enforced. But.. I must fly places, so I just suffer like the rest.
- bombcar 4y agoNote that voip calls are prohibited even though you can get internet access. This is because of annoying other customers, not because of safety.
- yellow_postit 4y agoWouldn’t it also be bandwidth consumption on a limited connection?
- fphhotchips 4y agoPerhaps on the upload but download bandwidth can seemingly deal with a plane full of people streaming Netflix these days, so that's not an issue.
- anu7df 4y agoNetflix on a plane? I have never seen that. Which onboard wifi allows that? Perhaps you are thinking of movies delivered via wifi, but the content is streamed from the plane itself.
- bpye 4y agoI’ve been able to stream video on an Air Canada flight from Vancouver to London, afaik it’s the same GoGo satellite service that seemingly everyone else has.
- bombcar 4y agoYeah they explicitly allowed movie streaming from basically any site but not voip. There’s no way they had all the YouTube cached on the olane
- fphhotchips 4y agoQantas has been able to do Netflix/Youtube/whatever on a plane with free wifi for several years. I'm not talking about onboard entertainment, which is a separate thing with a separate app (which is, on the domestic flights where free wifi is offered, largely obsolete at this point). It's not without momentary buffering issues, and I will tend to download things in advance for that reason, but 99% of the time it's pretty good.
- nonethewiser 4y ago
- Sporktacular 4y ago1) The wifi system is EMC certified and tested with the flight instrumentation. Dozens of different consumer devices are not. 2) Lufthansa "allows it during the entire flight without restriction – even during take-off and landing unless the crew instruct otherwise"(https://bluetoothtechworld.com/can-i-use-bluetooth-headphones-on-a-plane/ https://bluetoothtechworld.com/can-i-use-bluetooth-headphone...). In other words, unless you're told to turn it off in the event of some problem, which is something you can't do when it's in the luggage hold of the aircraft. Again, the articles specifies this is about EMC.
- 8note 4y agoIs that certification actually important? It seems to me like a denylist would be more useful than an Allowlist at this point. Almost no consumer electronics are dangerous to a plane
- Sporktacular 4y agoApparently, to them, yes.
- ajsnigrutin 4y agoTheir wifi system might be, but a 100 phones and tablets, some from reputable manufacturers, some from "10TB tablet apple samsung iphone" sellers from aliexpress, and the system still works. Imagine planes falling down because a single passenger had a malfunctioning phone on it... the lawsuits against boeing/airbus would be astronomical.
- Sporktacular 4y agoNot sure what about my comment you take to be an endorsement of opaque, seemingly unreasonable EMC rules. I don't make them, know if they work or particularly care for the purpose of this thread. The concerns stated, justified or otherwise, were about RF emissions and not battery fires.
- zahllos 4y ago
- AlfeG 4y agoAll airline I've been travel, disable WiFi during takeoff and landing.