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Summoning Salt does not include any memes in their videos. The footage that included the profanities was of a speedrunner celebrating that they had just broken

Summoning Salt does not include any memes in their videos. The footage that included the profanities was of a speedrunner celebrating that they had just broken the world record. This sort of footage is important for his documentaries because their whole purpose is in showing who were the key participants in the speedrunning communities for the game the video is about. You can’t do that nearly as well if you don’t actually show the speedruns.

encryptluks2 4y ago
You can bleep the swear words out, or mute them and put some funny content over it.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  I like how fast this thread went from a complaint about cheap memes to a call to cover the swearing with "some funny content". Anyway, sure he could do that. Youtube said he didn't need to, then punished him harshly for being well within the rules.
  - encryptluks2 4y ago
    YouTube didn't say he didn't need to. Show me in the terms of service where it says that as long as they follow specific guidelines that they don't reserve the right to flag or remove content.
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      That's an impossible standard. Why are you demanding that? As far as possible standards go, he was very far inside the relevant rule. I don't know why you would interpret "said he didn't need to" as "legally bound themselves to inaction in such a case".
      - encryptluks2 4y ago
        He wasn't even in the rule though. The rule states: > Abbreviated, censored, or light profanity (like “hell” or “damn”) in the title, thumbnail, or video. People are just making up rules here.
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        You accidentally only got the first third of the rule? > You can turn on ads for this content: > Abbreviated, censored, or light profanity (like “hell” or “damn”) in the title, thumbnail, or video. Moderate profanity (like “shit” or “bitch”) used in the video. Infrequent usage of strong profanity (like the "f-word”) after the opening or up to twice in approx. the first 30 seconds of the video; or strong profanity in a music video. There was one single burst of fucks. That's infrequent use of strong profanity. The next category up, which is still the intermediate category for advertiser friendliness, is "Focal usage of strong profanity throughout a video (e.g. mentioned in every sentence)."
        encryptluks2 4y ago
        So that still breaks the first section and I don't think they are claiming the second section applies here as you'd need to label the video correctly.
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        It does not break the first section. The first sentence is not "light profanity, and only light profanity, can be in these places". The first sentence is "light profanity, ignoring other profanity, can be in these places". The structure of the rule is "light profanity can do A, moderate profanity can do B, and strong profanity can do C". The strong profanity in the video follows the strong profanity rules for being advertiser friendly. And I have no idea what you mean by "label the video correctly". Are you talking about the fact that light profanity is allowed inside titles?
        4y ago
- BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
  SummoningSalt is a documentarian and it seems entirely reasonable to show the footage unaltered. Especially considering the context and the how little was actually shown.
  - encryptluks2 4y ago
    Then that is why it is flagged as adult content.
    - BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
      My problem is, six rapid f bombs in the span of 3 seconds as celebration of winning a speed run just does not warrant an adult rating. Edit: I grant that it’s not for young children, but can you really say it’s on the same level as Adults Only content because of this? Is it so bad that only 18+ year olds can handle how profane this is? The video shouldn’t show up on YouTube Kids, but this doesn’t warrant making it as restrictive as adults only.

encryptluks2 4y ago

You can bleep the swear words out, or mute them and put some funny content over it.

Dylan16807 4y ago
I like how fast this thread went from a complaint about cheap memes to a call to cover the swearing with "some funny content". Anyway, sure he could do that. Youtube said he didn't need to, then punished him harshly for being well within the rules.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  YouTube didn't say he didn't need to. Show me in the terms of service where it says that as long as they follow specific guidelines that they don't reserve the right to flag or remove content.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    That's an impossible standard. Why are you demanding that? As far as possible standards go, he was very far inside the relevant rule. I don't know why you would interpret "said he didn't need to" as "legally bound themselves to inaction in such a case".
    - encryptluks2 4y ago
      He wasn't even in the rule though. The rule states: > Abbreviated, censored, or light profanity (like “hell” or “damn”) in the title, thumbnail, or video. People are just making up rules here.
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        You accidentally only got the first third of the rule? > You can turn on ads for this content: > Abbreviated, censored, or light profanity (like “hell” or “damn”) in the title, thumbnail, or video. Moderate profanity (like “shit” or “bitch”) used in the video. Infrequent usage of strong profanity (like the "f-word”) after the opening or up to twice in approx. the first 30 seconds of the video; or strong profanity in a music video. There was one single burst of fucks. That's infrequent use of strong profanity. The next category up, which is still the intermediate category for advertiser friendliness, is "Focal usage of strong profanity throughout a video (e.g. mentioned in every sentence)."
        encryptluks2 4y ago
        So that still breaks the first section and I don't think they are claiming the second section applies here as you'd need to label the video correctly.
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        It does not break the first section. The first sentence is not "light profanity, and only light profanity, can be in these places". The first sentence is "light profanity, ignoring other profanity, can be in these places". The structure of the rule is "light profanity can do A, moderate profanity can do B, and strong profanity can do C". The strong profanity in the video follows the strong profanity rules for being advertiser friendly. And I have no idea what you mean by "label the video correctly". Are you talking about the fact that light profanity is allowed inside titles?
        4y ago
BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
SummoningSalt is a documentarian and it seems entirely reasonable to show the footage unaltered. Especially considering the context and the how little was actually shown.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  Then that is why it is flagged as adult content.
  - BuyMyBitcoins 4y ago
    My problem is, six rapid f bombs in the span of 3 seconds as celebration of winning a speed run just does not warrant an adult rating. Edit: I grant that it’s not for young children, but can you really say it’s on the same level as Adults Only content because of this? Is it so bad that only 18+ year olds can handle how profane this is? The video shouldn’t show up on YouTube Kids, but this doesn’t warrant making it as restrictive as adults only.