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Funny you say that, I just opened Safari, no ads.

tfsh 4y ago
Safaris default new tab page is the Apple store and most don't know how to change that. edit: turns out I was wrong. 2nd edit: this used to be the case many years ago, thanks for those who confirmed
- johnklos 4y ago
  The first part is correct, but the second certainly isn't.
  - adamking 4y ago
    I'm not even sure the first part is. I logged into a Guest Account on my Mac and the default for 'New tabs open with:' is the 'Start Page', which is a blank page with history, bookmarks, frequently visited, etc.
  - tfsh 4y ago
    Oh forgive me, I've just checked are you're right. The new tab page is now frequently visited sites. Our family Mac we got in ~2011 did show Apple as the new tab page, or at least the start page when you opened Safari after booting. However this must have changed in the last few (read: >5-7) years.
    - null_object 4y ago
      > Our family Mac we got in ~2011 did show Apple as the new tab page, or at least the start page when you opened Safari after booting Pretty certain this is also incorrect. My recollection seems to accord with the Wikipedia page on the history of the Safari browser which (although it doesn’t itemize the default StartPage for each version) doesn’t cite any inclusion of an AppStore link, as far as I can see. [O] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_(web_browser) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_(web_browser)
      - yreg 4y ago
        Not the "Apple Store", but apple.com I believe it is correct. It was back when we didn't call it a new tab page, but 'homepage' and it was set to an actual website. Of course Safari defaulted to apple.com, what else was it supposed to default to?
        cpsns 4y ago
        It is correct, back in the Panther days when Safari was new the default home page was Apple.com. I’m not sure how long they did that for, but like you said, what else were they supposed to do? It was a different time, homepages were treated differently.
        account42 4y ago
        > what else was it supposed to default to? about:blank until the user sets something else.
- deleted 4y ago
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- xattt 4y ago
  Having a home page set to something isn’t the same as having ads that you can’t disable.
  - shawnz 4y ago
    You can disable the ads in Firefox though
    - xattt 4y ago
      Not in Chrome apparently.
- null_object 4y ago
  > Safaris default new tab page is the Apple store and most don't know how to change that. There are a list of alternatives in Safari that the user themselves can choose from, including Favorites, Frequently visited, and so on. None of the choices are the Apple AppStore.
- null_object 4y ago
  > 2nd edit: this used to be the case many years ago, thanks for those who confirmed No - what other posters 'confirmed' is that www.apple.com was one of the choices that could be made for a new tab or homepage - absolutely not the Apple store as you said. Worth correcting yet again because of what's become a knee-jerk 'but whatabout Apple?' in comment threads about Google on HN.
  - tfsh 4y ago
    I'd say they are analogous. If I go to apple.com it is the definition of an online store, there are a number of call to action "buy" buttons with pictures of various Apple devices. I think you're being pedantic if you say apple.com is not the apple store. If I wanted to go to the apple store I'd go to apple.com.

tfsh 4y ago

Safaris default new tab page is the Apple store and most don't know how to change that. edit: turns out I was wrong. 2nd edit: this used to be the case many years ago, thanks for those who confirmed

johnklos 4y ago
The first part is correct, but the second certainly isn't.
- adamking 4y ago
  I'm not even sure the first part is. I logged into a Guest Account on my Mac and the default for 'New tabs open with:' is the 'Start Page', which is a blank page with history, bookmarks, frequently visited, etc.
- tfsh 4y ago
  Oh forgive me, I've just checked are you're right. The new tab page is now frequently visited sites. Our family Mac we got in ~2011 did show Apple as the new tab page, or at least the start page when you opened Safari after booting. However this must have changed in the last few (read: >5-7) years.
  - null_object 4y ago
    > Our family Mac we got in ~2011 did show Apple as the new tab page, or at least the start page when you opened Safari after booting Pretty certain this is also incorrect. My recollection seems to accord with the Wikipedia page on the history of the Safari browser which (although it doesn’t itemize the default StartPage for each version) doesn’t cite any inclusion of an AppStore link, as far as I can see. [O] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_(web_browser) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_(web_browser)
    - yreg 4y ago
      Not the "Apple Store", but apple.com I believe it is correct. It was back when we didn't call it a new tab page, but 'homepage' and it was set to an actual website. Of course Safari defaulted to apple.com, what else was it supposed to default to?
      - cpsns 4y ago
        It is correct, back in the Panther days when Safari was new the default home page was Apple.com. I’m not sure how long they did that for, but like you said, what else were they supposed to do? It was a different time, homepages were treated differently.
      - account42 4y ago
        > what else was it supposed to default to? about:blank until the user sets something else.
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xattt 4y ago
Having a home page set to something isn’t the same as having ads that you can’t disable.
- shawnz 4y ago
  You can disable the ads in Firefox though
  - xattt 4y ago
    Not in Chrome apparently.
null_object 4y ago
> Safaris default new tab page is the Apple store and most don't know how to change that. There are a list of alternatives in Safari that the user themselves can choose from, including Favorites, Frequently visited, and so on. None of the choices are the Apple AppStore.
null_object 4y ago
> 2nd edit: this used to be the case many years ago, thanks for those who confirmed No - what other posters 'confirmed' is that www.apple.com was one of the choices that could be made for a new tab or homepage - absolutely not the Apple store as you said. Worth correcting yet again because of what's become a knee-jerk 'but whatabout Apple?' in comment threads about Google on HN.
- tfsh 4y ago
  I'd say they are analogous. If I go to apple.com it is the definition of an online store, there are a number of call to action "buy" buttons with pictures of various Apple devices. I think you're being pedantic if you say apple.com is not the apple store. If I wanted to go to the apple store I'd go to apple.com.