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As an owner of a Video Production studio, this kind of tech is blowing my mind and makes me equally excited and scared. I can see how we could incorporate such
by slhomme 4y ago
As an owner of a Video Production studio, this kind of tech is blowing my mind and makes me equally excited and scared. I can see how we could incorporate such tools in our workflows, and at the same time I'm worried it'll be used to spam the internet with thousands and thousands of souless generated videos, making it even harder to look through the noise.
A fun related experiment, I thought it was fun to see what kind of movies AI would generate, so I created a "This Movie Does Not Exist" website[1] that auto generates fake movies (movie posters + synopsis). It basically uses GPT-3 to generate some story plots, and then uses that as a prompt (with in-between steps) for Stable Diffusion. Results may vary, but it definitely surprises sometimes with movies that look and sound amazing!
[1] This Movie Does Not Exist: https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/ https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/
- klondike_klive 4y agoThese prompts are way better than the drivel I see on Amazon Prime. Half their movie descriptions don't even tell you anything about the film, they seem to be just a random paragraph from the pitch document.
- sgrove 4y agoYou should add a “tweet this movie” button that pre-populates the image and the title! I immediately wanted to share one of the funny suggestions.
- sixQuarks 4y agoFor those who are scared about this technology, it’s good to look at what AI has done to Chess. The best chess seems to be when AI is used along with humans. I think image and video AI will best be exploited when human input is also taken into account. There is still something special about human creativity, I think AI will just be another tool to expand that. At least, in the short term I would say 10 years perhaps. AI will probably one day take over all aspects of creativity and humans won’t be able to contribute.
- looknee 4y agoI may be mistaken but I believe that human/machine pairing was dominant for a long while, but the last few years the chess solvers have progressed to a point where they're dominant on their own. Poker on the other hand I think human players still win vs GTO solvers, but again I may be mistaken here too.
- lairv 4y agoI think AI now beat humans at poker https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190711141343.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190711141343.h... https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~noamb/papers/19-Science-Superhuman.pdf https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~noamb/papers/19-Science-Superhuman.p...
- LarsDu88 4y agoIs there a single "intellectual" game left that humans can beat computers at? I suppose an AI has yet to beat lebron james at basketball, but I suppose that's for want of having a body.
- dwohnitmok 4y ago> Poker on the other hand I think human players still win vs GTO solvers, but again I may be mistaken here too. Also an outsider, but I think this has changed in the last year and that AI now is consistently better than top-tier humans at even no-limits poker.
- dwohnitmok 4y ago> The best chess seems to be when AI is used along with humans. I don't think this is true anymore. I don't think I've heard about successful centaur chess games in years. I would love to be wrong there though (in particular if anyone knows about how correspondence chess games have been played in the last 2 or 3 years with the availability of Leela Zero and Stockfish NNUE).
- dwohnitmok 4y ago
- skocznymroczny 4y agoReminds me of South Park when Cartman was pretending to be a robot and was made to invent movie prompts "Adam Sandler is like, in love with some girl, but then it turns out that the girl is actually a Golden Retriever. Or something.""
- spaceman_2020 4y ago“AWESOME-O”, S8 E5, if anyone wants to check it out. A South Park classic imo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awesom-O https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awesom-O
- Dracophoenix 4y agoOr the "Two Brothers" skit from Rick and Morty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba9k5SWwE38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba9k5SWwE38
- raghava 4y agoOnce a capable AI that can make a "Two Brothers" trailer like this one below comes up, humanity has some serious issues to tackle, other than climate change ofc! :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBUUoyZoja4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBUUoyZoja4
- barbariangrunge 4y agoI know some extremely hard working independent filmmakers who struggle so hard to get noticed. After this tech goes mainstream in 5 years and gets really good, I don’t know what they’re going to do
- have_faith 4y agoFrom my personal perspective; knowing how something is made affects my interest in it. I guess that's why provenance ascribes value. I value human creativity and so I'll likely always seek out something created by craft than by shortcuts.
- elephanlemon 4y agoMake blockbusters, because scenes that would be incredibly expensive to shoot now will be practically free with this?
- barbariangrunge 4y agoEvery 15 year old kid will be making their own blockbusters
- the_lonely_road 4y agoHave you talked to the average 15 year old kid? Hell, have you talked to the average 50 year old? It will be the same as ever, a sea of absolute shit surrounding some true gems, be they from novel creativity or just excellent execution of well worn ground. The role of the trusted curator will rise and brands will gain more power. I am sure I will watch MY 15 year old's attempts, and maybe a few from my extended circle but most of my consumed content will still come from what makes the cut to Netflix or HBO etc. Technology like this will empower the truly creatives once it has matured. I would expect closer to 20 years than 5 however.
- poopnugget 4y ago
- usefulcat 4y ago> I'm worried it'll be used to spam the internet with thousands and thousands of souless generated videos I agree, and I think when that happens, it will tend to increase the value of curation. High quality curation that is, probably done mostly by hand, as opposed to the at-best-mediocre automated curation that is commonly used. It could be bad for things like YouTube, for example. I think there will be an arms race between generated video content one one side and automated curation on the other. I mean, you can still leverage viewer choices for curation (looking at what people are watching a lot of), but that is just shifting the burden of curation to users. Few people will be willing to sift through dozens of cheaply generated crap videos to find something they actually want to watch.
- ericd 4y agoThe volume will increase so much that the only choice will be automated curation tools, at least as a first pass. The arms race is on.
- maxov 4y agoI love this! But after trying it a few times I got this result :). So fascinating. https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/the-terminator https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/the-terminator Brings up the age-old question of how much the learning in these models is just memorization. Though in cases like these it’s hard to tell.
- slhomme 4y agoYep, that's because GPT-3 was trained on real existing data, and it's quite a challenge to make sure the story plot is 100% fake. When it's too close from an existing film, it just sometimes gives it the same film title. I have in-between GPT-3 prompts to avoid that as much as possible, but sometimes real movie titles slips through the cracks. Something I hope to improve shortly.
- clipper_janosch 4y agoWhat a great project, you absolute legend!
- soperj 4y agoYeah, just got: https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/the-legend-of-zelda-1 https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/the-legend-of-zelda-... It's crazy that it just made up those names...
- kurxig 4y agoSince the generated output is so close to the training data, the model is probably overfitted and trained with too few data...
- LambdaComplex 4y agoI got this on my 4th try or so: https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/alice-in-wonderland https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/alice-in-wonderland
- pfalke 4y ago
- samstave 4y agoHa - getting app too busy errors so can’t see your site…
- slhomme 4y agoSorry about this, we're having a hard time handling the heavy traffic coming from Hacker News. Over 4k movies generated in just the last 2hours, this definitely impacts our servers performances, not mentioning our Stable Diffusion and GPT bills! hehe. Currently working to make things smoother!
- samstave 4y agoThis is normal, so appreciate growth
- agentwiggles 4y agoThis one is too funny: https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/the-virginity-pact https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/the-virginity-pact
- pkulak 4y agoOoo, check out that trademark infringement.
- BillSaysThis 4y agoWhy would this title bring in superheroes?!? lol
- moron4hire 4y ago>> spam the internet with thousands and thousands of souless generated videos Unfortunately, that's already happening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7oiHtYCo0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7oiHtYCo0w From what I can see, YouTube has done quite a bit of work to cleanup YouTube Kids, but it's kind of an arms race. There's this worrying issue in AI ethics discussions where most people seem to assume the problems and dangers of AI are still off in the future, that as long as we don't have the malicious AGI of sci-fi stories, then AI and "lesser" algorithmically generated content isn't harming society. I think that's not true at all. I think we've seen massive damage to social structures thanks to algorithmic feeds and generated content, already, for years now. I don't think, just because they aren't necessarily neural-network-based, doesn't make them something to not worry about. So I don't see AI as a particularly, different, worrisome problem. It's an extension of an already existing, worrisome problem that most people have ignored beyond occasionally complaining about election results.
- hugozap 4y agoIs the generation happening in real time? I'm curious about the costs of running something like this.
- picsao 4y ago
- hiidrew 4y agoI think some refer to this as the dead internet theory, e.g. AI content creation becomes the majority of media on the internet instead of humans posting (may be wrong in my explanation but think that's the premise). It's scary to think about it but seems plausible—like if someone can make an app with Tiktok-like ubiquity of only AI content. Although to your point I imagine there will be so much nonsensical noise that curating will become a useful skill, it is today but even more so.
- Atheros 4y agoPeople like interacting with other people, not bots. If a few individuals start to feel like they're interacting with too many bots, they'll retreat into small private silos. The human-to-bot ratio on public forums then drops. Then more people realize that they're just talking to bots and further and further it goes until practically no humans are left. That's the dead internet theory. I really don't think it applies to us in this context though because I think that a decent number of humans don't care whether some content is AI generated. Furry porn is all hand-drawn and people still like it despite it not being real.
- Dragonai 4y ago> It's scary to think about it but seems plausible—like if someone can make an app with Tiktok-like ubiquity of only AI content. Although to your point I imagine there will be so much nonsensical noise that curating will become a useful skill, it is today but even more so. This just gave me a disturbingly vivid vision of exactly what you described. A seemingly likely future where everyone's in their homes scrolling endlessly on a TikTok-like app where there's literally infinite content being generated by the AI all the time, and as people like and dislike certain types of content, the AI just gets better and better at generating new videos...this is honestly kind of terrifying. I have no doubt this will exist one day, and that it'll print money for one company while billions of people are spending all their free time consuming it.
- poopnugget 4y ago
- WheelsAtLarge 4y agoCool toy. One of the most useful side effects of AI right now is idea generation. Market this as an idea generator for movies and such and people will eat it up. Try posting it on the entertainment focused area of Twitter and people will go nuts for it.
- twobitshifter 4y agoSaw this clip today in response to a tweet by musk saying a cyber truck can act as a boat. I thought either this was made by an AI or it will be soon. https://twitter.com/dvorahfr/status/1575508907593711618?s=46&t=WtyGV-gXyyloRWp2BuE-mQ https://twitter.com/dvorahfr/status/1575508907593711618?s=46...
- pmarreck 4y agohttps://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/the-yetis-last-stand https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/the-yetis-last-stand The description text does not convert sentences with carriage returns (or probably, newlines) into separate div's or whatever html element you'd prefer, FYI! Otherwise, very cool!
- gcanyon 4y ago"Soulless" -- they'll be low quality, both in rendering and in plot/acting, but they'll be anything but soulless. Each will be a labor of love of someone with a dream.
- extragood 4y agoSleeping Beauty actually looks really good: https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/sleeping-beauty https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/sleeping-beauty Edit: Worst (best?) tone clash: https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/stalked-by-a-friend https://thismoviedoesnotexist.org/movie/stalked-by-a-friend
- agentwiggles 4y agoThat second one is seriously hysterical
- _tom_ 4y agoFirst one I got was "the time traveler's wife" which does exist.
- cutups 4y agoI was thinking about something like this site, but also taking some randomized existing plot outlines to generate specific stills from each part of the plot. Might require isolating character archetypes too? Great work with this as is!