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No, if your reputation is really bad you'll probably just be shown a captcha.

donmcronald 4y ago
Not even close. PayPal, Twitter, Facebook, Discord, etc. all insta-ban or lock your account if you come from a low reputation IP. These services make it impossible to participate online without giving big tech your identity. IMO they’re worse than everyone else combined because they play a critical role in helping all tech companies discriminate against people that want privacy.
- data_maan 4y ago
  Pretty much this. Actually they ban your account and want you to upload ypur ID. The weirdest thing was that Facebook a while ago had an onion adress too (presumably so that people from repressive regimes could access it). But if you'd use Tor to access them using the regular web: insta-ban.
TT-392 4y ago
And then you complete the captcha, the page reloads, and you have to solve another captcha. Never actually getting to the site
data_maan 4y ago
No, Cloudfare often just blocks you. And if it doesn't, do you think that is a better solution, solving a captcha every 5 minutes? Just try using Google from behind a serious VPN provider, see how that works for you. Also, what is your opinion on geoblock, do you think that is a good thing? It seems you are one of the company's representatives that has never in his life consistently used a VPN or Tor, so you don't even know to what kind of restricted internet your company's products are leading to.
- byyll 4y ago
  Although I am not a fan of cloudflare, cloudflare doesn't just block you. It's up to the administrator to choose what action he applies to what type of user. https://developers.cloudflare.com/firewall/cf-firewall-rules/actions/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/firewall/cf-firewall-rules...
- jonathan-kosgei 4y ago
  To clarify, showing captchas is what a number of our customers do and I doubt they do it as aggressively as google. Geoblocks are unfortunately often necessary to comply with the law or contractual obligations eg. media streaming.
  - data_maan 4y ago
    > I doubt they do it as aggressively as google. While I would like to believe you the problems is that until there is a law on how much you can pester people with captchas (and you basically can pester them into oblivion) , privacy-conscious people are simply at the mercy of the sysadmin deciding for them how usable the company service is made. Which is a decidedly bad state of affairs, since he could simply wake up at any day, whip up Google-style captcha-ing and as a VPN user you simply would have no option for recourse :(

Not even close. PayPal, Twitter, Facebook, Discord, etc. all insta-ban or lock your account if you come from a low reputation IP. These services make it impossible to participate online without giving big tech your identity. IMO they’re worse than everyone else combined because they play a critical role in helping all tech companies discriminate against people that want privacy.

data_maan 4y ago
Pretty much this. Actually they ban your account and want you to upload ypur ID. The weirdest thing was that Facebook a while ago had an onion adress too (presumably so that people from repressive regimes could access it). But if you'd use Tor to access them using the regular web: insta-ban.

TT-392 4y ago

And then you complete the captcha, the page reloads, and you have to solve another captcha. Never actually getting to the site

data_maan 4y ago

No, Cloudfare often just blocks you. And if it doesn't, do you think that is a better solution, solving a captcha every 5 minutes? Just try using Google from behind a serious VPN provider, see how that works for you. Also, what is your opinion on geoblock, do you think that is a good thing? It seems you are one of the company's representatives that has never in his life consistently used a VPN or Tor, so you don't even know to what kind of restricted internet your company's products are leading to.

byyll 4y ago
Although I am not a fan of cloudflare, cloudflare doesn't just block you. It's up to the administrator to choose what action he applies to what type of user. https://developers.cloudflare.com/firewall/cf-firewall-rules/actions/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/firewall/cf-firewall-rules...
jonathan-kosgei 4y ago
To clarify, showing captchas is what a number of our customers do and I doubt they do it as aggressively as google. Geoblocks are unfortunately often necessary to comply with the law or contractual obligations eg. media streaming.
- data_maan 4y ago
  > I doubt they do it as aggressively as google. While I would like to believe you the problems is that until there is a law on how much you can pester people with captchas (and you basically can pester them into oblivion) , privacy-conscious people are simply at the mercy of the sysadmin deciding for them how usable the company service is made. Which is a decidedly bad state of affairs, since he could simply wake up at any day, whip up Google-style captcha-ing and as a VPN user you simply would have no option for recourse :(