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It's desktop only (no Android or iOS support) which makes me wonder: what percentage of overall podcast listening occurs on a desktop computer? Polls on this ar

It's desktop only (no Android or iOS support) which makes me wonder: what percentage of overall podcast listening occurs on a desktop computer? Polls on this are all over the place, but I would guess maybe 10-15%? For me, podcast listening has always been an inherently mobile activity, and it would drive me nuts if I had podcatchers on multiple devices that were out of sync with each other.

paulryanrogers 4y ago
I used to only listen on desktop, at work, and for a while with gPodder. Now I use AntennaPod on mobile and sometimes others. Desktop is nice when you're doing something routine and enjoy hearing a conversation or trivia in the background.
asveikau 4y ago
I remember gpodder working well on the Nokia N900.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  I used gPodder on the N900 long after after it was useless as a phone (because of the network upgrade), until downloading broke because I couldn't update ssl easily (and the internet had upgraded.) It integrated with Panucci, which for me has an ideal (although a little unfinished) interface for playing podcasts/ebooks, I don't know what I'm going to do without Panucci when the N900 finally goes kaput. I heard its code is horrific, though, and that the qPodder guy hated it.
  - thpx86 4y ago
    Yes, on the N900 (and the N800/N810) before that, gPodder was sharing most of the UI code even with the Gtk Desktop version (with some special-casing for the touch-friendly Hildon UI), and initially the "system" music player was used to play back podcasts. Panucci added support for resuming playback and a UI tailored towards audiobooks and podcasts. Panucci is still around and should be usable on the Desktop, but the last commit was several years ago: https://github.com/gpodder/panucci https://github.com/gpodder/panucci Starting with the N9 and later Sailfish OS, the UI of the mobile app was re-done in Qt/QML (so don't name your project after the toolkit of the day...). There, audio playback was integrated into the main application, so there was no need for a separate app like Panucci (this also made it easier to sync fine-grained playback positions between devices using gpodder.net, although this also works with MPRIS2 and e.g. VLC on the Desktop these days).
toastercat 4y ago
It is probably low as you presumed, but I personally try to do as little as possible on my phone. gPodder was great for me when I was actively listening to podcasts at the beginning of the pandemic. I appreciate the snappiness of desktop apps over web apps, so I'm probably the target audience.
freedomben 4y ago
Yes, desktop only, however there are a number of podcast apps that support gpodder.net syncing. I use AntennaPod on Android, and gPodder on Fedora desktop.
NegativeLatency 4y ago
It's right there in the name "pod" cast. In the early days of podcasts I listened to them on my computer (downloaded over precious dial up time, where the time to download the episode was longer than the time required to listen to it), but as soon as I got an iPod they were a mobile thing for me.
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marbu 4y ago
Long time ago, I used gPodder to download audio files with podcasts and then synced them to a mp3 player or mobile phone. Nowadays I'm using gPodder on a phone with Sailfish OS: https://openrepos.net/content/keeperofthekeys/gpodder https://openrepos.net/content/keeperofthekeys/gpodder The app is actually linked from the submitted page, but it's easy to miss there. I also noticed that if I create list of shows to listen to later, I end up listening to more interesting stuff, as I filter out items which are not as useful few weeks later.
kornhole 4y ago
Antennapod is your Android client that syncs with gPodder. I sync with my Nextcloud add on app.
CharlesW 4y ago
> Polls on this are all over the place, but I would guess maybe 10-15%? Edison Research says that desktops/laptops account for 13% of listening in Q4'2021, having dropped 7% since the start of that year. I'd predict that it falls to under 10% by the end of 2022.
thpx86 4y ago
gPodder started in 2005 when I needed a tool on Linux to download podcasts and sync it to my iPod mini, so even back then it was mostly about downloading on the Desktop, and my phone of the day didn't have much storage space for audio, let alone a 3.5mm headphone jack (I remember getting a "MP3 player phone" with 3.5mm headphone jack and dedicated media player buttons, the 5310 around 2006 or 2007 at which point the iPod as a dedicated device starting to become redundant). At some point though, phones (and "mobile Internet devices") became powerful and programmable enough that it made sense to port gPodder to "Desktop Linux Userland"-based devices and phones (N800, N810, N900, N9, Jolla) and run it directly on the phone. These days, my day-to-day podcast consumption happens with the built-in Podcasts app on the iPhone, but gPodder (on the Desktop) is still useful for downloading and archiving (hoarding) YouTube subscriptions (especially since there are so many ads on the web and TV versions of YouTube), mixes from Soundcloud and others and just interesting podcast episodes that might not be available in the future. I even recently submitted a patch to re-introduce iPod support, so the current version can sync to iPod minis again if you want to have a distraction-free retro podcast listening experience on the go :)
linmob 4y ago
Today, there‘s an adaptive variant of GPodder[0] so that people with PinePhone, Librem 5 or ported Android phones running Linux Mobile can use GTK-based GPodder on mobile. (This does not matter in terms of numbers, as that‘s at best a few thousand people, but still.) [0] https://github.com/gpodder/gpodder/tree/adaptive https://github.com/gpodder/gpodder/tree/adaptive
jbj 4y ago
gPodded is pretty neat, I have tried it on Sailfish (and likely also long time ago on N800 with maemo) I just discovered podverse from browsing f-droid a few days ago, has some similarities with pocket cast which I have been using since before they were sold the first time. You can also use the news app for nextcloud to show podcasts along with rss news stories, if you are looking for something along those lines. I actually just submitted the podverse link for discussion here just a few mins ago, so I am pasting a link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32922268 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32922268
- cxr 4y ago
  Matt says that Pocket Casts itself is supposed to get open sourced, but the roadmap keeps being pushed back.
wink 4y ago
From my unscientific surveys between friends I'm the only dedicated 100% only-on-the-desktop listener, so I'd guess more 5% - but maybe 10-15% for "I don't care, wherever". Incidentally I had used JuiceReceiver for years until it stopped working (due to the SSL algos from 2005 finally giving in) and then wrote a replacement in C++/Qt with an online backend, just to track which episodes I listened to (and because it was fun, mostly).

paulryanrogers 4y ago

I used to only listen on desktop, at work, and for a while with gPodder. Now I use AntennaPod on mobile and sometimes others. Desktop is nice when you're doing something routine and enjoy hearing a conversation or trivia in the background.

asveikau 4y ago

I remember gpodder working well on the Nokia N900.

pessimizer 4y ago
I used gPodder on the N900 long after after it was useless as a phone (because of the network upgrade), until downloading broke because I couldn't update ssl easily (and the internet had upgraded.) It integrated with Panucci, which for me has an ideal (although a little unfinished) interface for playing podcasts/ebooks, I don't know what I'm going to do without Panucci when the N900 finally goes kaput. I heard its code is horrific, though, and that the qPodder guy hated it.
- thpx86 4y ago
  Yes, on the N900 (and the N800/N810) before that, gPodder was sharing most of the UI code even with the Gtk Desktop version (with some special-casing for the touch-friendly Hildon UI), and initially the "system" music player was used to play back podcasts. Panucci added support for resuming playback and a UI tailored towards audiobooks and podcasts. Panucci is still around and should be usable on the Desktop, but the last commit was several years ago: https://github.com/gpodder/panucci https://github.com/gpodder/panucci Starting with the N9 and later Sailfish OS, the UI of the mobile app was re-done in Qt/QML (so don't name your project after the toolkit of the day...). There, audio playback was integrated into the main application, so there was no need for a separate app like Panucci (this also made it easier to sync fine-grained playback positions between devices using gpodder.net, although this also works with MPRIS2 and e.g. VLC on the Desktop these days).

toastercat 4y ago

It is probably low as you presumed, but I personally try to do as little as possible on my phone. gPodder was great for me when I was actively listening to podcasts at the beginning of the pandemic. I appreciate the snappiness of desktop apps over web apps, so I'm probably the target audience.

freedomben 4y ago

Yes, desktop only, however there are a number of podcast apps that support gpodder.net syncing. I use AntennaPod on Android, and gPodder on Fedora desktop.

NegativeLatency 4y ago

It's right there in the name "pod" cast. In the early days of podcasts I listened to them on my computer (downloaded over precious dial up time, where the time to download the episode was longer than the time required to listen to it), but as soon as I got an iPod they were a mobile thing for me.

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marbu 4y ago

Long time ago, I used gPodder to download audio files with podcasts and then synced them to a mp3 player or mobile phone. Nowadays I'm using gPodder on a phone with Sailfish OS: https://openrepos.net/content/keeperofthekeys/gpodder https://openrepos.net/content/keeperofthekeys/gpodder The app is actually linked from the submitted page, but it's easy to miss there. I also noticed that if I create list of shows to listen to later, I end up listening to more interesting stuff, as I filter out items which are not as useful few weeks later.

kornhole 4y ago

Antennapod is your Android client that syncs with gPodder. I sync with my Nextcloud add on app.

CharlesW 4y ago

> Polls on this are all over the place, but I would guess maybe 10-15%? Edison Research says that desktops/laptops account for 13% of listening in Q4'2021, having dropped 7% since the start of that year. I'd predict that it falls to under 10% by the end of 2022.

thpx86 4y ago

gPodder started in 2005 when I needed a tool on Linux to download podcasts and sync it to my iPod mini, so even back then it was mostly about downloading on the Desktop, and my phone of the day didn't have much storage space for audio, let alone a 3.5mm headphone jack (I remember getting a "MP3 player phone" with 3.5mm headphone jack and dedicated media player buttons, the 5310 around 2006 or 2007 at which point the iPod as a dedicated device starting to become redundant). At some point though, phones (and "mobile Internet devices") became powerful and programmable enough that it made sense to port gPodder to "Desktop Linux Userland"-based devices and phones (N800, N810, N900, N9, Jolla) and run it directly on the phone. These days, my day-to-day podcast consumption happens with the built-in Podcasts app on the iPhone, but gPodder (on the Desktop) is still useful for downloading and archiving (hoarding) YouTube subscriptions (especially since there are so many ads on the web and TV versions of YouTube), mixes from Soundcloud and others and just interesting podcast episodes that might not be available in the future. I even recently submitted a patch to re-introduce iPod support, so the current version can sync to iPod minis again if you want to have a distraction-free retro podcast listening experience on the go :)

linmob 4y ago

Today, there‘s an adaptive variant of GPodder[0] so that people with PinePhone, Librem 5 or ported Android phones running Linux Mobile can use GTK-based GPodder on mobile. (This does not matter in terms of numbers, as that‘s at best a few thousand people, but still.) [0] https://github.com/gpodder/gpodder/tree/adaptive https://github.com/gpodder/gpodder/tree/adaptive

jbj 4y ago

gPodded is pretty neat, I have tried it on Sailfish (and likely also long time ago on N800 with maemo) I just discovered podverse from browsing f-droid a few days ago, has some similarities with pocket cast which I have been using since before they were sold the first time. You can also use the news app for nextcloud to show podcasts along with rss news stories, if you are looking for something along those lines. I actually just submitted the podverse link for discussion here just a few mins ago, so I am pasting a link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32922268 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32922268

cxr 4y ago
Matt says that Pocket Casts itself is supposed to get open sourced, but the roadmap keeps being pushed back.

wink 4y ago

From my unscientific surveys between friends I'm the only dedicated 100% only-on-the-desktop listener, so I'd guess more 5% - but maybe 10-15% for "I don't care, wherever". Incidentally I had used JuiceReceiver for years until it stopped working (due to the SSL algos from 2005 finally giving in) and then wrote a replacement in C++/Qt with an online backend, just to track which episodes I listened to (and because it was fun, mostly).