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Upsetting about the app, but the new iOS weather app has the functionality essentially. The real gut wrencher is the darksky website going down. It’s how I che
by Drybones 4y ago
Upsetting about the app, but the new iOS weather app has the functionality essentially.
The real gut wrencher is the darksky website going down. It’s how I check weather most of the time a no other browser weather site comes close to it in simplicity and features.
- quickthrowman 4y agoIt definitely does not have the same functionality, you can only see the current temp/precip prob %/humidity/dewpoint/wind speed/etc, you can’t see the forecasted stats I listed in the iOS weather app, you can only get hour by hour temperature. I’m very disappointed that Dark Sky is going away. If Apple added in the ability to see forecasted hour by hour wind speed/humidity/dew point/etc, it’d be a decent replacement.
- samcat116 4y agoThis has changed completely in iOS 16
- dcormier 4y agoIn iOS 16 it’s greatly improved. You can now get the predicted hourly temperature, UV index, wind, rainfall, feels like temperature, humidity, visibility, and atmospheric pressure.
- pgoggijr 4y agoMost of the functionality is coming in iOS 16: https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/08/ios-16-weather-app-update/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/06/08/ios-16-weather-app-upda...
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- Shank 4y ago> I’m very disappointed that Dark Sky is going away. If Apple added in the ability to see forecasted hour by hour wind speed/humidity/dew point/etc, it’d be a decent replacement. In iOS 16 (and in macOS Ventura, which adds the Weather app), you can view hourly temperature, UV index, wind speed, precipitation, feels like, humidity, visibility, and pressure, on a graph. You can also tap and hold to view individual hourly data. You should see if the updated experience works for you!
- quickthrowman 4y agoOh, that’s great news! Glad to hear that Apple included that in the iOS 16 version, I haven’t upgraded yet. Thanks for the info!
- r00fus 4y agoWhat about the "time machine" feature in Dark Sky? I really like being able to look in the past/future arbitrarily.
- TrueGeek 4y agoI really hope this add this in to the default app. I use it constantly!
- kslambert 4y ago100% to this. Apple weather has a lot of the functionality but it’s not close when it comes to the experience. For wet climates like the PNW this is a hard change.
- nytesky 4y agoThat is great, because hourly dew point is so important to knowing how comfortable it will be. Now we just need a lightening tracker in iOS weather…
- Hel5inki 4y agoIf Apple can give me an allergen outlook similar to Accuweather I’ll finally be able to swap. This update was quite nice, but the allergy watch has helped me proactively respond to seasonal allergies which is hard to pass up on. A more granular detail of air quality would be nice as well, but I don’t need it to switch
- jnovek 4y agoI get migraines triggered by the weather and I can’t find another app with barometric pressure forecasts and history.
- morley 4y agoI've used the weather.gov site for the last ~5 years, and it has been great. I bookmark both the 7-day local forecast[1] and the hourly dashboard[2]. [1] https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.71234500000003&lon=-73.95397999999994#.YpeO-RPMLmo https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.71234500000... [2] https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?w0=t&w3u=1&w5=pop&w7=rain&w8=thunder&w9=snow&w10=fzg&w11=sleet&AheadHour=0&Submit=Submit&FcstType=graphical&textField1=40.7123&textField2=-73.954&site=all&unit=0&dd=&bw= https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?w0=t&w3u=1&w5=pop&...
- arh68 4y agoAlong these lines, I also really like the Aviation Radar maps [1] https://aviationweather.gov/radar/plot?region=alb https://aviationweather.gov/radar/plot?region=alb (feel free to change, in the top left, Type = Comp Ref, and to Loop)
- sklargh 4y agohttps://nasstatus.faa.gov https://nasstatus.faa.gov - will give you exceptionally accurate information about flight delays unrelated to your aircraft. wx & airspace.
- aeharding 4y agoAnother good one - https://www.1800wxbrief.com/Website/interactiveMap https://www.1800wxbrief.com/Website/interactiveMap
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- nojito 4y agoThey also have a really nice api. https://www.weather.gov/documentation/services-web-api https://www.weather.gov/documentation/services-web-api
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- misnome 4y agoI've found that the Weather app maps are lower resolution than the Dark Sky app, and still has the bug where large portions of the weather radar just.. disappears when trying to render the recent history.
- sklargh 4y agohttps://open-meteo.com/en https://open-meteo.com/en will let you create a very nice dashboard for yourself...very easy to use.
- jszymborski 4y agoI usually used Darksky for the hourly percipitation forecast. It helped me time things out. For fellow Canadians who used it similarly, the Canadian Gov't has a pretty handy hourly forecast[0]. The radar is also nice [1]. [0] https://www.weather.gc.ca/forecast/hourly/qc-147_metric_e.html https://www.weather.gc.ca/forecast/hourly/qc-147_metric_e.ht... [1] https://www.weather.gc.ca/map_e.html?layers=radar&zoom=-1¢er=45.52,-73.65 https://www.weather.gc.ca/map_e.html?layers=radar&zoom=-1&ce...
- emptybits 4y agoAgree. I have trusted the Environment Canada forecasts for years. Web and basic app. The government-issued stuff isn't as featureful or pretty as some apps, but I go back to it every time because its track record here (Vancouver) has been good to me. I wish there was an API or non-scraping approach to retrieve the daily & hourly forecasts. With the popularity of open data policies on tax-funded public data... it seems there should be.
- bpye 4y agoI'm pretty sure this - https://api.weather.gc.ca/ https://api.weather.gc.ca/ - is what you're looking for. It looks like they expose lots of data via an API, including the 7 day forecast. For example this should be the Vancouver forecast - https://dd.weather.gc.ca/citypage_weather/xml/BC/s0000141_e.xml https://dd.weather.gc.ca/citypage_weather/xml/BC/s0000141_e.... I think this is the hourly data - though in a slightly odd format - https://dd.weather.gc.ca/nowcasting/matrices/ https://dd.weather.gc.ca/nowcasting/matrices/ Edit: Aha found the nowcast docs - https://eccc-msc.github.io/open-data/msc-data/nwp_nowcasting/readme_nowcasting-datamart_en/ https://eccc-msc.github.io/open-data/msc-data/nwp_nowcasting...
- emptybits 4y agoNice! That hourly data link ("*matrices") looks easy enough to parse. Thank you!
- unsignedint 4y agoShortly after Darksky left Android, started using Windy. [1] Not necessarily a simplest solution for weather forecast, but provides wealth of information to satisfy my meteorological curiosity as well. (I pay Premium for higher precision data, and I think it worth every penny IMHO.) [1]: https://www.windy.com/ https://www.windy.com/
- seanp2k2 4y agohttps://weatherflow.com/ https://weatherflow.com/ is also good. I pay for their iKiteSurf product as a kitesurfer and it works decently well once you understand what "16 knots" at one spot vs another really means out on the water.
- lighttower 4y agoI use VentuSky. I pay for the premium layers. Happy customer
- JeremyNT 4y agoOn android, I switched to the open source "wX" app, which uses NWS data under the hood. It's incredibly detailed and although the UX is a little rough it's because it's aimed at power users, so I figured the HN crowd might appreciate it. Play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=joshuatee.wx https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=joshuatee.wx F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/packages/joshuatee.wx/ https://f-droid.org/packages/joshuatee.wx/ Source: https://gitlab.com/joshua.tee/wx https://gitlab.com/joshua.tee/wx
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y agoOn Android I use Geometric Weather. I believe it uses AccuWeather. https://github.com/WangDaYeeeeee/GeometricWeather https://github.com/WangDaYeeeeee/GeometricWeather
- drewlander 4y agoI use that too but on iOS. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wxl23/id1171250052 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wxl23/id1171250052 https://gitlab.com/joshua.tee/wxl23 https://gitlab.com/joshua.tee/wxl23
- GeekyBear 4y agoThe iOS weather app has the functionality, without selling your location data to data brokers, as has normally been the case with third party weather apps. >Weather apps are secretly selling your location data to the highest bidder https://thenextweb.com/news/weather-apps-are-secretly-selling-your-location-data-to-the-highest-bidder https://thenextweb.com/news/weather-apps-are-secretly-sellin...
- hahajk 4y agoThis looks like Dark Sky's response to that article. https://mobile.twitter.com/darkskyapp/status/1081351446195589120?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/darkskyapp/status/108135144619558... So, not the case with Dark Sky.
- GeekyBear 4y ago>We still do not, and never will, sell your location data to 3rd parties. They sold the whole company. If they had sold to a data hoarder like Google or Facebook, I have very little doubt that the data would have been included. Who in their right mind thinks Google wanted to buy Fitbit for anything but their data?
- seanp2k2 4y agoWell, they also got the engineers.
- inlined 4y agoI’m really tired of hearing everyone suggest Google is some boogeyman trying to do something subversive to get your data. Anyone who thinks this should grab their nearest google engineer and talk about privacy controls internally. Privacy is critical to the company and every product launch has a privacy review. In one of my launches we even had to add an opt in to allow users to share data with themselves because it crossed product boundaries.
- PascLeRasc 4y ago
- yieldcrv 4y agoOh wow I did not notice that the weather app has maps of all area thermometers now Thats what I used wunderground and dark sky for can finally uninstall wunderground for good, thanks!
- festiveakp 4y agoUsually I use the default Samsung weather app, but when I'm on my PC https://wttr.in/ https://wttr.in/ is a fun one, and you can even get terminal-readable output by using something like cURL!
- seanp2k2 4y agoNice, I made something similar with https://github.com/ip2k/we4ther?files=1 https://github.com/ip2k/we4ther?files=1 a decade ago. It used to be up at we4ther.com but I hadn't updated the code in a long long time and didn't bother migrating it to my latest server. The free MaxMind GeoIP DB is def good enough to detect location (this was before the browser location API) close enough to give accurate weather.
- jrockway 4y agoFor weather stuff, there are a lot of good resources. For current conditions, I use my state's mesonet: https://www2.nysmesonet.org/ https://www2.nysmesonet.org/ (Specifically, I bookmark a nearby location: http://www.nysmesonet.org/weather/local#network=nysm&stid=bkln http://www.nysmesonet.org/weather/local#network=nysm&stid=bk.... This page also pulls in official National Weather Service forecasts.) For radar, I just use GR Level 3. I was tired of the slowness of the web. I add shapefiles for mPING, lightning, NWS watches, NWS convective outlooks / mesoscale discussions, etc. Great piece of software, and lots of shapefiles available on the Internet to extend it. For forecasting, I use the College of DuPage forecast tools: https://weather.cod.edu/forecast/ https://weather.cod.edu/forecast/. There is a learning curve, but the "simulated reflectivity" is a prediction of where it's going to rain. It predicts what a radar mosaic would look like at the forecast time. I like HRRR for "today" and NAMNST for "tomorrow". GFS is also a classic for longer-term predictions, but I don't have a good enough memory to tell you how accurate it is. (HRRR is some good tech, though. Predicting the future is tough, HRRR does a pretty good job.) These models also have decent surface predictions; temperature, dewpoint, winds, etc. If you're willing to step through some pretty pictures in a very nice web interface, you can get some great ideas of what the weather is going to do. Well worth a visit. On NAM and some other models, you can also long-press on a point to see a forecast sounding. This is probably in the realm of too much information for the average person interested in weather (and using models to make your own forecast probably is too), but hey, they have some neat software and you should play with it. Finally, I like the SPC's site for situational awareness of thunderstorms in the summer: https://www.spc.noaa.gov/ https://www.spc.noaa.gov/. Their forecast tools are also excellent: https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/ https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/. Specifically, the mesoanalysis graphics can be interesting for anticipating exceptional events. Anyway, I used to be a heavy user of Weather Underground. They got bought, then their parent company got bought, and now they have no actual weather information and just clickbait videos. It's very sad, but you can cobble together some tools that are freely available on the Internet and be aware of the current and upcoming weather, without being served a single ad! Otherwise, iOS has a thing you can turn on that notifies you when it thinks it's going to start raining.
- soheil 4y agoThe iOS 16 beta Weather app has incredible features and down to the hour granularity even for future days.
- neon_electro 4y agoThat’s all the hope I have left. Bring on iOS 16, I suppose. RIP Dark Sky
- diebeforei485 4y agoIs this the 16.1 beta, or the 16.0 release?
- soheil 4y ago16.0 if you click on the day a pop up appears with an interactive graph broken down by hour on the x axis.
- gcanyon 4y agoDoes iOS do the freaky-accurate “light rain starting in five minutes, ending twenty minutes later” thing? If so, I’d love to know where, I’ve missed it.
- lathiat 4y agoI get that from the "Rain Parrot" app.
- Alex3917 4y agoNo, but it's currently in beta in the API, so possibly it will come in the future: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/weatherkitrestapi/nexthourforecast https://developer.apple.com/documentation/weatherkitrestapi/...
- dylan604 4y agoi'm not running any betas, and i have this feature. i don't remember if it was the latest iOS or the one prior though
- NobodyNada 4y agoYes. If there’s rain forecasted for the next hour, it’s displayed prominently on the top of the weather interface (it’s hidden if there’s no rain expected). It will also appear on your home screen if you add a weather widget.
- bsimpson 4y agoFWIW, Google does that (at least on Android). You get a notification if it's expected to rain soon. Honestly, Dark Sky had been my habitual weather app until Apple killed it, but it doesn't seem as accurate as I expected. I don't know if this means I've been in places where their data is less optimized, or if I'm just noticing it more now that I have to look at other options.
- vl 4y agoDark Sky hyper-prediction is very location-dependent. In some places it’s spot-on, in other not even in the ballpark.
- Mandatum 4y agoRecommend windy.com
- cycomanic 4y agoThe best weather website IMO is windy. I used it a lot when I was sailing/windsurfing, but you can also use it for general forecasts.
- __mp 4y agoI like - https://www.meteoblue.com https://www.meteoblue.com - check out the multi model, the multi model ensemble , the meteograms and the weather maps! Sadly the app itself is not as good as the website. - https://yr.no https://yr.no - One of the few "free" providers with ECMWF model data (Norway has open data, that's why the data is free) - https://www.windy.com/ https://www.windy.com/ - ECMWF, GFS and ICON. I don't like their presentation, but the available data is quite nice. If you want a DarkSky replacement API, then checkout out https://pirateweather.net/ https://pirateweather.net/ (GFS only, sadly :/ )